I THINK WE HAVE A STRONG CHANCE OF SEEING THIS IN THE AM...THEIR GOV IT TO BE SEATED TOMORROW... THE ISX IS TO GO LIVE TOMORROW
I THINK WE HAVE A STRONG CHANCE OF SEEING THIS IN THE AM...THEIR GOV IT TO BE SEATED TOMORROW... THE ISX IS TO GO LIVE TOMORROW
From ISX Website - Iraqi Govt announced July 1 a public holiday
Iraqi Government has announced that Tuesday 1 Jul 2014 will be a public holiday in baghdad , ISX will not hold trading session on Tuesday 1 Jul 2014
This is only my take , but if July 1st is a holiday in Iraq and the ISX is closed, that would give Iraq a whole day to revalue the IQD (IQN) without fear of investors making a killing in the ISX.
Hopefully it starts tonight and is completed by the time we wake up in the morning.
I know, pie in the sky, but it is one explanation.
June 30th, 2014
I will say this right now, if they go international at 1166 on the ISX none of us should even worry about an RV because we need to get into the stock market and make millions off that LOL The big money makers and smart investors would make a killing if they do that.
June 30th, 2014
ISX Nasdaq OMX X-Stream platform cannot and will not have 1166 rate. This platform is international, and what people fail to understand is that 1166 is a PROGRAM rate...a De Facto rate... Artificial.
From what I understand, the rate coming on an international scene must reflect the true value of the country's wealth, because it will be exchanged with other currencies that have been calculated based on fair trade. Sager
June 30th, 2014, 8:58 pm
Frank had eluded to the fact that Kuwait would not allow Iraq's dinar to be higher than theirs. Today Wells Fargo has the Kuwaits dinar at $4.02 to the USD. That is $.50 higher than it was.
thanks tlar!! Just curious why you think it will be 3-7 days after the government formation for the cbi to act? I was under the impression before that you thought it would be almost instant.
I apologize if I misunderstood and I realize this sitution is fluid and events or intel may of changed your opinion. Thanks again for sharing what you are hearing and I understand if you cant or dont want to elaborate on a possible timeline
Just covering my butt. There are a lot in dinar land that are saying some pretty nasty things about me according to some emails sent to me by friends.
So if I was to say by "Thursday" and it took a couple of extra days, they would tear me up. This is Iraq and people are the ones doing this. All plans work perfectly until you add people into the mix. tlar
Tlar, just curious...
Do you think, once the gov't is seated & the currency has Revalued, do you think it will be announced through the media like the fighting is now??
My opinion on an announcement is it will be announced in the Iraqi news but almost no mention in the US.
Don't look for balloons or a parade here. It will be kept as quite as possible because our government wants it that way.
You may or may not even spread the word yourself.
Dinarians will know immediately and that may also be why the banks are setting up to buy billions by the push of a button in advance. Huge profits and no lines.
Anyway we also would be best not to brag or make yourself visable unless you intend to loan alot of money to people you don't even know. Having alot of money has its own problems. tlar
Blue I am very interested in seeing how they handle the fact that the Treasury will have new money and the debt reduced.
About a year or so ago they passed a law saying the Treasury could use foreign currency reserves to pay off debt.
That law as I recall allows the US for the very first time in its history to do this. Tlar
]\mike1422 Don't know if this is good or bad...
BAGHDAD - Iraq Press -1 in July: It was the beginning of the meeting of leaders of the National Alliance in the house of Ibrahim al-Jaafari, on Monday evening, Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, on the last day of his second term, seemed to insist on Petrhha for the post of prime minister in the coming initially.
Says a close one of the leaders of the coalition participating in the meeting, said that "the leader of the Supreme Council Ammar al-Hakim, and the Sadrist movement, such as Karrar al-Khafaji, objected strongly to put the name of al-Maliki."
And apparently the latter was expected this rejection on the basis of predetermined positions announced by the Supreme Council and the Sadrists threw down, for the first time, an explicit alternative to his leadership in a state of law and director of his private office Tarek Najm.
this is an interesting phrase i just noticed after reading the article again...
"...especially after the intense controversy within the National Alliance to reject outright the owners (maliki) and the alternative, (his stooge) which is the point of a major shift in attitude Head of the government."
they want an all inclusive GOI and they ain't going for any of maliki's deals.
that must be why they went back to maliki's, to go over "plan b
Hakim knows full well.. the very best thing that can happen is a peaceful transfer of power. That is a hallmark of a Democracy.
-Here in the US... when George Washington turned down the offer of kingship, and peacefully handed over power to an elected successor... it was a milestone in human history. Never before had it happened in such a way.. it was an outgrowth of the Enlightenment. No more would Kings conquer for power and rule by "Divine Right".
-It is important for the Iraqis to democraticly use the Parliamentary system, based on the Iraqi Constitution, to move forward. To remove maliki by force, stains the democratic process. Even Sadr sees that, and is on board. Nearly everyone is on board.. except for Maliki's crooked goons.
-That is why we have not seen Nouri eat a lead sandwich.
i did see where allawi and his people are boycotting the parlimentry session based on the "conditions in the country". wonder if their votes will be missed?
The SOL has not got the votes and the coalition does. Its just arguing and the SOL leadership is still trying to find a way.
Tomorrow the truth will surface. It is a forgone conclusion.
Maliki out, Maudi in. tlar.
does anyone know if they are televising it live.
10 am tomorrow is only midnight in california.
what about al jezeera or one of them?
any body have any idea?
they said all of the press will be there. they have to be televising the most important event in years, right?
The Ghost Writer Wrote:
So the event horizon approaches rapidly for all. Here you are, almost at the end, waiting for announcements and releases. This is the most dangerous of times for the unwary.
Now is the time for setups and positioning, so you will see an increase in the propaganda put out to control you and steer you in the direction which those who will profit off you, want you to go.
You will be told, and lead through the process that they wish you to go through. Some of the information is very subtle but you are being prepped none the least.
Keep your head and think. Stop, don't react emotionally as expected. Stop and think.
By now you should have your plan and know which bank you should exchange through. There is only one clearance bank make sure you are not charged for the service.
Regarding fees levied by banks for this exchange, this is bogus, unless the law has changed (it hasn't), all currency exchanges must be treated in the same manner.
It is illegal to charge an extra fee / percentage for any particular currency. All must be treated the same. I can only imagine how gleefully the lawyers will rub their hands together when they find that someone is pushing this falsehood.
You can be assured that when you contact your lawyer he will be very interested to hear and take to task anyone perpetrating a fraud on you and the American people.
You should be aware and not sign any contract waiving your rights. Ensure you don't fall for trickery.
You should not be charged any extra fees for this exchange, regardless of the contract rate offered it is illegal to treat any foreign currency different to another by levying a fee to exchange it.
Banks and Exchanges exchange currency at different rates of exchange which are published this is entirely different from illegally charging you to do an exchange of a certain currency at the bank.
You have been informed, if you are wise you will be getting the highest amount possible at your exchange.
You many repost if you wish to.
By the Ghost Writer
Post From Currency Chatter By Tlar --
This is: The First Of My Last 3 Emails To Be Sent To Family & Friends
Today at 2:30 PM
On Monday, June 30, 2014 2:29 PM, Tlar wrote:
Comment - Tomorrow should be a big day in the life of this investment. The parliament will meet and be sworn in and then either announce the candidates to the press for government positions or they will go through the motions and actually vote them in one by one.
This should be like the couple that gets married in a quick marriage in Vegas then later has a formal wedding. In other words they might either make an announcement to the press of the new government or go through the motions of appearing to build a government in one day.
This is the first step in the process. The RV will quickly follow meaning in 3-7 days but more like three. The rate is still at between $3.00 - $4.00. I know some of you don't understand but this is the way it will go.
Anything can be delayed because remember this is Iraq and it is people that are doing this. If there is a delay it will only be a few days but at this time nobody is anticipating any delay. Enough about that.
The Iraqi army is beginning to route the ISIS (article 1) out of the Sunni areas they have been occupying under Sunni authorization. Sunni's, Turkmen and Kurds will quickly join in to remove the ISIS and have stated such as soon as Maliki is out of office and there is a new representative government announced.
The ISIS will quickly be on the run even though they just announced that they have formed an independent state inside the borders of Iraq. They are being pushed back as I write this and many are dressing up as women in their attempt to escape.
They have been nothing more than a tool in this and when the tool is of no longer use, it will be discarded. I have said the things going on in Iraq is not what it seems for a few months now.
This is an orchestrated Sunni rebellion against a dictatorial government.
The purpose of which is to unseat a powerful dictator who had no intention of ever leaving.
Articles continue to describe this government as "the owners" and that is the way the Maliki government and Maliki himself has acted since they took control of Iraq in 2010. The money, the property, the people, in fact all assets of Iraq, the owners felt belonged to them so they took what they wanted when they wanted it.
In one Sunni town before this mess started, Maliki had his army rounded up and arrested 400 male citizens. He jailed them in his secret jails and they are still there today being tortured.
There is more than 100,000 political Sunni prisoners jailed in Iraq today. The Sunni's are tired. Maliki has marginalized ethnic groups, the Sunni's, the Turkmen and the Kurds.
Everything is being set right with this rebellion and things that would have never been set right as long as Maliki stayed in office. They have been righted through the gains made in the towns and provinces and made in the field. Sunni's are in control of Sunni areas and Kurds are in control of Kurdish areas.
This was never intended to be a civil war but the Sunni's were prepared to take it that far if Maliki gained a third term. Maliki will not be a part of the new government nor will there be a puppet regime fashioned after Putins ploy to sit out for a term (man behind the thrown) and then re-run again.
Maliki would have accepted that but no one else would.
We are so close to this being over. I will put out another email tomorrow afternoon after parliament meets. The last email I will put out will be the day of they RV.
Like I said above, the RV will follow within days of the announcement of the new government.
Turki said it himself when he stated that he would do it today if the government was settled. He also stated he would like to do it mid year.
Tomorrow is the first day of mid-year and tomorrow hopefully the government will be "settled." Tomorrow I will most likely be sending out the 2nd of my last three emails.
Like I also said above if there is any delay it will be short as in one to two days.
Again, my last email will explain everything. Here is a couple of articles.
The last is long but it is by far the most accurate assessment of Iraq from the beginning of the war. (I did not include this on this site for CC. It is posted here in the forums
Special Report: How Iraq's Maliki defined limits of U.S. power by Kimberley
Comment - the beginning of the end for ISIS. tlar
Iraq: ISIL Militants Fleeing Salahuddin in Women Dress
Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:11
TEHRAN (FNA)- Militants of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) are wearing women's dress and hid in civilians' cars to escape from Salahuddin province in disguise after sustaining a heavy defeat in the war with Iraq's army and volunteer forces. "Many of the ISIL militants are fleeing Salahuddin province in family cars and in women dresses," Head of Salahuddin Governorate Council Ahmad Al-Karim told FNA on Monday.
He said that the ISIL militants are escaping to Al-Jazeera Hamrin Mountains, and added, "The ISIL is a terrorist group supported by some regional countries and it is just trying to create a chaotic atmosphere in the region."
Meantime, a security source in Salahuddin province announced that the Iraqi army has struck heavy blows on the ISIL.
On Monday, Iraq's security forces and army killed large numbers of ISIL militants in violent clashes at Spiker military base in North of Tikrit, capital province of Salahuddin province.
"Fierce clashes erupted between the armed forces and the terrorists in Spiker base in the North of Salahuddin," informed security source told Iraq's Alforat news agency.
"The fighting resulted in killing the terrorists," he added
(Notes by Adept1):
Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#
Tony: Good morning, TNT! We’re going to have our usual great, enthusiastic show. Today is Monday, June 30th, 2014. There is tons of information. DC has some great information and I think you will be very excited. He will tell you stuff he probably shouldn’t tell you.
I am on Twitter, and this guy Scotty D – I don’t know who this idiot is, but he says he knows me, but he’s using a fake name because he’s gutless. Today he said “I’ve been doing this for five years now, and I told Tony I’m going to tell you what he has been doing.” Why? What an idiot. He must have no friends or family, and this the best he can do for himself. He’s trying to tell people the RV is not going to happen, that it’s all made up. Very shortly, we will see how stupid this person is. I wish I was that smart to make all this up. We are simply not this good! If so, I would go around the whole globe doing this. ScottyD, you are giving me way too much credit! Just mark him as spam and block him, and that will do it. That will take him off your page and list. I see lots of people standing up for me, and you don’t have to do that; the whole world will see how stupid he is.
DC: It was great weekend – a little slower than we’d hoped. We hoped for some announcements and numbers to come out, but they didn’t. W will see them in the next day or two. The 1-4 July is still the window we are under. There were so coordinating phone calls that changed at the last moment because of things in Iraq and logistical aspects that have caused it to wait a few days, but we are all lined up. Do you want me to do my usual diatribe, east to west?
Tony: What details took place over the weekend? People will know soon enough.
DC: Until we hear from a few people, let’s just tell them what we know. Until someone tells us something else, they said to just do what we do. We are free citizens, but we have asked what we can talk about, and we can talk about just about anything. The plate has been pretty full.
Bottom line: we anticipate it on or before the 4th, with lots of confirmations from all around the globe. We were told by at least four different folks about scheduling 800 numbers to go out this weekend for appointments to go on the 1st. We knew about that on Thursday; it’s been held up by the banks and the IMF. That is the high level.
Low level: Iraq, there are ISIS guys causing problems we need to address and we are doing that. There are bad guys doing bad things, but I strongly feel that it is not as bad as shown on the US television. They are looking with a magnifying glass. They are doing horrible things, but not as widespread as they’re talking about. We have extremely competent advisors getting the Iraqi military back in place. Rich people don’t fight, and that is what they are working on now. They are having everyone put down their guns because they are a wealthy country and don’t care anymore. Many Sunni clerics have said that they are hurting more Sunnis than everyone; we need to get an inclusive government. So the Sunnis are on board, and they and the Shi’ites and Kurds have agreed to create a government. Several people have been proposed for PM who are inclusive; they understand that they need serious involvement, not just window-dressing.
Maliki is till around, trying to make his play to be part of this, but he’s really the guy at the party who just won’t leave. They want him to leave. There is a 5% chance he will make a comeback. The ministers in all the other positions are being set up. Parliament is meeting now, and they are selecting ministers including the PM – Mahdi or Chalabi are likely. This is having a stabilizing effect on the entire country. CBI is cued up and they have reps from ten countries making sure they are doing things properly. There are also techs from the BIS and other authorities. The cards will increase in value tomorrow; we got that from four different folks who have been notified that their cards will increase. Security is set up to guard the banks in Iraq. Ramadan started yesterday for Shias tomorrow for Sunnis, so they’ll have a day off tomorrow. It’s a great week to have an RV.
Tony: This was supposed to happen, and it was held up. Tomorrow is the 1st, and we know there is something scheduled for both of those days. This morning there was a request to extend it to the 9th, but we don’t think that will happen because everything is lined up. It could be real because M is still in the game so that he can keep the waters muddied so he can come out on top.
DC: The chances of him coming out on top are extremely slim; he has burnt his bridges.
Tony: parliament is meeting tomorrow, and they like to do things two days before announcements. We were told we will have the results of that meeting today. They were told in the mosques this morning that the rate on the cards will definitely increase this evening. We are waiting on things occurring in Iraq. We haven’t seen any change in the ISX or Nasdaq yet; we are expecting that tomorrow. There is an article out about that, too. We have been hearing from three-letter agencies, over there and economists, and that is very significant for tomorrow.
This should have happened on Thursday or Friday, and some banks were really pissed off that it didn’t . Some banks were mad at other banks that things have not been accomplished last Tuesday; t hey gave them until Friday and it’s still not done!
DC: So over here in the US, we got a role reversal – the UST and others are now eager to push this out for various reasons. They just want to get it done. The UST is aggressively pushing this to the lowest level, and the administration as well. Senior politicians are eager to get this done, and I would argue it is already done. The other aspects are that they wanted to set something up this weekend, and then have the tax changes apply from 1. July. They wanted there to be a few days to get the training done, and the appointments would start on the 1st. A few key people got done over the weekend and today, but they wanted the vast majority to go on the first. They were all set up for that and we got it from multiple sources.
We are here yet another Monday when we hoped not to be. There is nothing but good news. Again, if you have asked a question in the last week or last month, let other people talk. Some have been waiting to get on the call for months or years, so put your hands down to give them the opportunity. There are 67 people with their hands up; if you could limit it to two questions, that would also let more people in.
They were supposed to come out last week or over the weekend, but due to nervousness about Iraq and some other issues, it got delayed. They are now anticipating phone calls at any moment. Turn up the volume on your Twitter because notifications have been given out that it can go at any moment. In essence, they have already pulled the trigger. They have said, ‘you can shut down your business, but that is on you”. Everyone is ready to go.
Tony: You are telling me that EVERYBODY who exchanges foreign currency has been given a timeline and after that they are responsible for what they do?
DC: All the regulated agencies and dealers have been given notification/information on this timeline, and they have been told to expect a change of currency in these windows we have discussed. They are not going to get in their business, but they are not going to be responsible if the dealers make a massive loss if they don’t act on this. That’s gone out to everyone worldwide.
Tony: This is not the first time this has gone out, or the first time this month.
DC: Right. This is the third time this month this notification has gone out. But it’s a nice window they have been given, and that is a pretty good sign. More information: the political guys are all meeting together to get this done, all in accord. The US is supporting this; the IMF is still a little nervous, but that is their job. The CIX system is fully set up; the UN has slapped everyone on the wrists because there were final things about Chapter VII a year ago. They used the word immediate and expedited, and ta year is not immediate. There are also legal things that got everyone in hot water to get people to get their act together. That’s been happening now for over a week, and that is getting stale and old, so they have to get that done.
Tony: We can talk about what we were discussing earlier. This is what I can’t understand: with what is at hand tomorrow and what’s going to be available tomorrow, why would they leave that window open to so many people around the world? They have to know this! They are bright people; they must know that if we could do it, then many others out there can do it, and blow it out of the water, and then it would all change again. Maybe we’ll have to do a call tomorrow. Maybe they are doing it on purpose. It’s too crazy that they leave that available and not make an announcement or something.
207 caller: There will be numerous questions after THE call, so will you have another call to answer the questions that will be posted in the forum?
Tony: I don’t know. That’s one of the big questions. I’ll be honest with you, there are certain questions they want me to answer and others they don’t. If we are under NDA, I might not be able to give you my own opinion, because I can always find a better way to do it. Some of you who took those group rates will be so mad at the end, especially as you thought you would be paid six months ago. You will be pissed off, and there are ways to avoid that. There are definitely avenues they don’t want me to discuss, including projects in the future. Let’s get all our questions out now, so that I can answer what I can and give you my opinion and tell you what I would do, not advising you. I keep hearing a bunch of different things they will or won’t allow me to do. That’s like having a JOB, and I haven’t had a job in 30 years.
Caller: As you get to review the package with all of us, we will have questions, and if we could post questions, then there could be another call later in the day just to answer those questions…
Tony: If we can use our usual site, we can do that. A lot of people are saying they want me to take down our site and use the site they will set up and control. They are suggesting we answer questions about the process only. We’ve heard they want us to do calls two hours a day for up to fourteen days, or eight hours for seven days, or whatever.
DC: Some politicos want us to say hello and goodbye, and then send you to the website. So we don’t know and I don’t’ think it’s been decided on and that is worrisome considering tomorrow is the first and Friday is the 4th.
Tony: We cannot do it all through live calls because many people don’t know what questions to ask. Those questions will show up somewhere. I’m expecting us all to have a super weekend on the Fourth of July.
818 caller: Considering everything that should have already happened, my question is about how far we are from the goal line… maybe the goal has already been made but there is such a heap on top of having passed the line and we’re waiting for the announcement to be made. Is it possible there are so many issues going on in Iraq that it will implode and it will have to start all over again.
Tony: It has passed the goal line and it’s waiting for a review and announcement.
DC: In Iraq… what if people were viewing the US news from, say, England. They would think the US was about to go into civil war, the way our guys talk about each other. These guys are throwing unhelpful insults at each other, pounding their chests and all the rest, just like here in the US. In terms of the security, that’s a real issue, but most of the towns are over 50-79% Sunni, and they have mostly taken over because the ISIS guys threatened to attack and the local Sunni guys told them not to do anything stupid and to minimize the bloodshed. It’s not a huge thing; it’s a few tactically good bad guys leading a Sunni minority that are pissed off with Maliki and the Ba’ath persecutions. Some of the media get it, but most don’t’, and many are focused on the fact that we lost lives and a billion bucks, so they play to our heartstrings, which drives up ratings. Iraq is in a bad stop, but not that bad.
Tony: This is being used as an excuse for what Americans can accept. People overseas see the US as lawless because people get carjacked in Detroit and murdered in California. People walk around with guns and shoot everyone they want. We have 600 people killed every day, and that is everyday news, but we get all excited because Iraq is on CNN because 200 people got killed. It’s important, but it’s not the picture we are seeing.
Caller: I appreciate your perspective and know that you have much more intel coming from a variety of sources. You are good at keeping hope levels high and keeping us calm, so what would be the worst case scenario?
Tony: That would be for this to hit the ISX and Nasdaq tomorrow and nobody knows what to do. That would be a mess. These people have to be smarter than that! Other than that, I see things working out the way they are supposed to. I can’t see them extending it to the 9th; that doesn’t make sense to me.
DC: Everyone is nervous, and some are so engrained that if anything minor thing comes up, they want to delay. We can’t really delay it much longer, in terms of legality or security, or in terms of what they have told Iraq, if they don’t follow through. I think some people are being nervous before the big game, but I think they will follow through. My biggest concern is lack of preparation on the US side for handling five million people who have just made a lot of money. It looks good on a PowerPoint slide in a meeting, but for those who are talking to people on a daily basis, I don’t think they appreciate how concerned people might be. They don’t understand a lot of these reactions, and they don’t see that they are not making us feel secure in their transactions. The planners know what an NDA is, but for a lot of people on the ground, they don’t understand an NDA or what it means that they can’t talk afterwards, or restrictions with their money.
Tony: Restrictions… ‘this is my money’ is what they will think, and you don’t clarify that in a 20-minute session. There will be backlash, because the bankers may say something but that doesn’t mean the currency holder will hear it the same way.
DC: Everyone is going to get emotional about this. Once everyone calms down and starts thinking logically, it will be okay. Until then…
Tony: Someone will have to lead them down that logic path; that won’t just happen.
Caller: God bless us one and all, you guys included.
301 caller: My first question is about the NDA. If you take the international rate, you don’t have to sign one, right? Why do you have to sign an NDA if you have the contract rates? If you pay half of what you receive as taxes, then you are no longer a security risk?
DC: You answered your own question.
Caller: Isn’t that an infringement of my freedom of speech?
DC: Not if you sign it voluntarily.
Tony: The international rate is available to the general public; if you know what has happened, or how to play the forex game, you can do what anyone else can do. Anything above that rate, the contract rate, is available to a limited number of people, and they don’t want that getting out, so then you have to sign the NDA. It makes sense, on one level.
Caller: So they have the right to refuse you if you don’t sign it?
Tony: That’s right.
Caller: Many are concerned about going to their appointment without someone to help and advise them. I created a form that makes a note of what is said, and that might be a good thing to give to the people in the forum. I sent it to you and to Ray.
Tony: Don’t misinterpret this. There will be bankers all across the country, and they will not be authorized to sign legal documents for you. They will ask you to sign the NDA and the contract, but they will not have the authority to sign some document you bring to them. Take an attorney with you if you are worried.
DC: This will be a ‘take it or leave it’ thing; we are cattle going through a chute. There will be options A, B or C, or out the door. I can’t see them signing your legal document.
Caller: I have been looking for an attorney to do this and haven’t found one.
DC: I only know one, and you can’t have him! There are not that many who fully understand the complexities of this deal.
Tony: I know how you feel, and that is why we wanted to post the NDA and contracts on the forum so that you can read and understand them before you go to the bank.
Caller: They are saying that according to the contract rate, you cannot move the money. What if they don’t do what they say they will do.
Tony: The banks won’t just say, “we’ll keep your money” without explanation or proof. Once you have paid the 2% fee, you can do what you want with your money, unless you have agreed otherwise with the bank. That has nothing to do with the NDA. The NDA is about not disclosing in terms of books, movies, and interviews… and that’s all.
703 caller: Thanks for the explanations about the delay until 1. July. If the powers knew about the target date and were listening to your calls, why didn’t they tell you from the start?
DC: The Democratic strategists said that is would great if we could bump up the figures for the third quarter, which starts on 1st July. They first said that in January, and nobody thought that would happen. They then took on delaying that whole thing on a day-to-day tactical basis, and sometimes it was as simple as turning this off, or disconnecting that, or sending people home, or intentionally putting people together who would fight. That’s what has caused these delays, although there have been some altruistic issues as well. Then it piled onto some tax and banking change as well. Most of the world would have had more respect for the US if they had openly said, “It’s coming out on the 1st of July and that’s flat, because we are the US and we can do it.” So now everyone is behind it.
Caller: I thought we would go to our appointment in two cars, and exchange part of our currency. But if this is so secret, how would anyone know to rob us as we go into to the bank? How would anyone who didn’t know about the currency exchange know how to rob? You’ve also talked about banks having extra security – what does that mean?
DC: That is six different questions. For simple security’s sake, anonymity is the best way forward. Nobody knows you have this currency in your pocket, so anonymity is the best way to go. Banks do have extra security and they will have it in the bank itself and the parking lots.
Tony: We’re back, and we’re still recording. Sorry about the noise; it was on my line.
DC: In terms of law enforcement, Homeland and bank security, all the plans I’ve seen are very good. It’s not my area, but as a person, I don’t want to have to make a decision whether I give a guy money or all my dinar just because he got lucky. Dividing my currency into small enough stacks is just the smart way to play it. The bank security is serious but not that public, and that is the best defense. Some guys I’ve trained with believe that the best security is anonymity, so that is what I plan to do – go in and out several times, with currency, just like another bank guy.
Tony: The bank security are well-trained. I think going there might be less safe, and only you know who you’ve been hanging out with.
970 caller: Last week on the call, a man asked about him and his wife having separate currencies. I have dong and zim; do I have to make separate appointments?
Tony: You can exchange all your currency in one appointment. That question was about husband and wife, different names and different currencies. The people at the exchange centers will be able to tell you.
Caller: Will all WF banks be participating in the contract rate for the dong?
Tony: No, not all of them will be in the exchange process at all. You give them you zip code, and they will give you your options.
Caller: DC, you didn’t think it would go to the first; realistically, do you think we will be in the banks this week?
DC: Realistically, yes. This thing has been stopped 70 times since April 1st. But everyone is ready now, including world leaders who are watching the screens. Somebody could get in the way, for whatever reason, but there is overwhelming evidence that the touchdown has been scored and we are just waiting for the oversight. Cold something blow it up? Yes, but I think the chances are very small. Let’s not give anyone ideas, but it’s hard to screw it up now. Don’t buy more currency; what you have is plenty.
Caller: Have a blessed day, and I’m looking forward to a blessed week.
212 caller: We all thought that screeching noise was the three-letter agencies. I’ve heard of adrenal gland fatigue, where you get exhausted from stress? Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday… we all think it’s going to go and we stay up all night. So we all have adrenal fatigue.
DC: It nearly has!
Caller: The call after you get the package… there seems to be disagreement about whether you will have the call. So there are a list of questions you cannot answer until you have the package.
Tony: We do things that are in the moment, right today what’s going on. A lot of times I read articles that are two days behind because we already have the information. We give you intel that we get from meetings that happened last night or two hours ago – not that we have all the intel or we always get the right information. You get the information from the memos or people who came out of the meeting. We are in the moment in the 7am or 8am briefing. When they go back to their offices and say what happened, then someone says they forgot something, and at the 1pm meeting it all gets changed again. It’s not the same as everyone saying “it’s in five days”. Instead, they will try to run it and see who tries to screw it up before it gets to the real target date. So our situation is a little different, because we are giving you intel in the moment. There are four plans at present. Some people don’t want us to give you any guidance at all, because it will upset their flow, which they want to be a cattle call instead of you being able to think. Banking is business, and they want to get you (and their employees) through in as short a period as we can. They have been telling their people for years that this is a scam and they’re going to be upset. They have to think about those things, but they don’t think about what is happening for us, on this side. They may have a great plan on people, but we have been living the reality for four years. It’s not to get you hyped or depressed all the time; we are telling you what we are actually hearing. Most are grown up enough to know that Tony doesn’t make the decision, or DC. It’s always better to BE ready than to get ready, and we have been telling you the whole time what to expect. That’s what we do.
Caller: I understand that you hear it just as we hear it, and the effect on you must be even worse than the effect on us. Waiting for THE call and hearing about THE package… it sounds like they want us to go in there and exchange everything in 20 minutes. If we opt for the contract rates, we will be handed the contract and expected to sign it?
Tony: If we are able to post the contract on the site, then you will understand it before you go in, or take it to your attorney for review before you go to the bank. You can only take a lawyer to the bank with you. If they go with that plan, the 20 –minute appointment, then it makes sense they will let us educate you on the contract and NDA beforehand.
Caller: Do you have any sense of what will be in the contract?
DC: This is what we understand at this point, and it can change; we don’t’ have the whole thing, but if we have 2/3rds we are doing really well. Only a handful fo people know the whole thing. Right now, we have heard that the banking fee is 2% and everyone has agreed to that. So if you exchange $100, you’ll pay $2. You go in, do your exchange into your bank account, and pay your fee upfront. The money is then yours to do what you want. The bank will of course try to sell you on investment products, and for the vast majority, that is the right way forward.
Some banks may offer you a higher rate in exchange for keeping some of your money in their bank, and they will offer good reasons for that. But basically, you pay the 2%, and after that it’s a matter of what the bank can persuade you to do with your money. There will be three rates with potentially different tax rates and conditions. This has changed several times and we haven’t had the official package yet.
Caller: Will the banks take out our taxes? Isn’t that the job of the IRS?
DC: We have heard that some contract rates say “this is your tax rate, period” and the banks can send that to the IRS. I can’t see that because the bank doesn’t know your situation, deductibles and so on. It might happen, but I’m not sure.
Caller: You said at the beginning of this call “How can they keep this open like this?!” If the GOI doesn’t release a new rate by the opening of the ISX, doesn’t that endanger their relationship?
Tony: I am not concerned if they don’t do it. I am concerned that if they DO release the ISX and don’t RV and let us exchange, then they are setting up a situation where sharks will make a lot of money. It would be the opportunity of a lifetime, greater than this RV, if they do that, but I can’t see them doing that.
Caller: How soon post-RV do you think the GCR will happen? Or will they happen simultaneously?
Tony: I’ll give you a scenario. If they do the RI or RV on Monday, and let you exchange, knowing the GCR would happen in the next ten days, what would you do with that money? Why would they create 100 thousand millionaires and let them loose with that money? Why would they expose themselves like that?
Caller: So you are saying it would have to happen at the very same time.
DC: I think the market will force a lot of things. Also, it is not well known how much reserve currency each country has. For instance, England has more dinar per person than the US; they deserve it, they fought in the war and lost their own people there. Once their reserve balance sheet inflates dramatically because of this, it will become a hell of a lot stronger. With some currencies getting stronger, and only a few insiders know the reserves in those countries, you can make a lot of money betting on those adjustments. There are many variables, but I think the GCR will be forced on the world, and the market will deal with it. Economists have spent thousands of hours on where those currencies will come out, and if they do it at the same time, there will not be the same opportunities for insiders to profit. Most currencies will change simply based on the RV of the dinar.
Tony: If the value changes, the rate changes, even with an RI. DC is smart, and there are even smarter guys out there, waiting to take advantage of a situation like this.
DC: There are smarter guys than we are, and they will make a killing.
Caller: The US dollar will not drop precipitously because of the dinar the US holds?
Tony: It will drop, but more like 2% rather than 30%.
DC: They planned for a maximum of 4%, and realistically it will be more like 2%.
Tony: A lot of what we have gone through in the last six months has been to protect the entire country, not just dinarians. It was not just about us having it or not having it.
410 caller: I’m super-fantastic as well. With every call, it’s getting closer every time. I had a dream last night that you called me and asked if I was ready to get out of bed and change my life! It’s getting real close!
Tony: Let’s make that dream happen, then! Let’s go get some money!
Caller: About the 2% you talked about, is that across the board for this exchange, or is that about negotiating control over our funds once we get to the bank.
DC: My understanding is that’s the flat fee, take it or leave it.
Caller: I know they will try to manage the money for us.
Tony: that is a totally different agreement, based on what every person has, their goals and what returns they want.
Caller: I’m the primary person in my family listening to you, and I’m trying to absorb every bit of information I can, for myself and my family. The gist is that you can only bring your lawyer, not my family members?
Tony: You can bring your spouse and a lawyer. When you make the call, ask them.
Caller: I don’t know how many out there are in a similar situation with your family or a whole group; if they are not there to attend, there could be some loss of communication.
DC: You nailed it!
Tony: This is what we know, and they know we know. We have 30,000 people on this call, but by two hours after the call, they’ve probably called ten people, so that’s 300,000 people, and then a day later it’s 3,000,000. If they get the wrong information, there will be chaos, like if people go to their appointment and then talk about what happened. They will have NDAs by then, of course.
DC: I admire what you are doing, because most are doing this as well. This has been a brutal up and down ride, so you are abstracting it for your family/friends, and telling them what to do. They reckon that about ten times the numbers on the call as sphere of influence, and then they spread it ten times as well, trickling down the information. Is that trickle accurate or fast? No. You have to get this squared away tight, because you’ll be explaining this complicated situation to people who are not used to it. So you’re right.
Caller: It’s not just “he said, she said”, it’s also “Tony said”!
Tony: Don’t make that mistake at the bank! Once they find this is live and they can do their exchanges, it’s not going to be an hour to call everyone, it’ll be ten minutes. It will gout at the speed of light. When you have this kind of information, you won’t be waiting to update people, you’ll be right on it. I’ve got 40 people waiting for that call! Because they know me, they don’t think they have to listen to the calls!
Caller: You’ve said many times to set aside 50% for taxes, 25% for investments and 25% for spending. Where do you plan on parking that? Interest-bearing account or what?
Tony: I do, and I know DC does, but it has been discussed again over the weekend that I cannot tell you too much about this. I think 3-D printing is the future, and you can easily see that the big four companies are the ones to support. You can buy some penny or dollar stocks, but that would happen so much sooner if I told you which companies I plan to support. I bet that industry will be the first to create billionaires, because there is a hidden gold mine in that industry that not everyone knows about. That will be a global industry.
If I were to tell you which currency DC is going to park his money, that would change the value right away, and it won’t work as well.
Caller: That’s right – I’m going to shadow what you guys do! What should be our topic priorities be during this exchange?
Tony: Go get your money, first thing! We cannot really answer beyond that.
DC: First priority for me is to get the actual money, exchange, help our friends and the intel team, then start paying off debts, relaxing, living the good life, and investing in medium and high risk projects. I have six businesses I’ll start the next day, because that’s what I’m good at. Others are better at helping people in a religious arena, and they should do that.
Tony: Don’t rush. There is no second shot for most people at this opportunity, so take care of the opportunity you have.
Caller: I get shivers down my spine every time you say that. If I mess this up, I might be in worse shape that I started out with. This is our last call, so thanks and I hope to keep in touch. Of course, you guys might be on an island, relaxing with those gold cigars, saying “I did my part!” Seriously, I’d like to keep in touch.
Tony: I don’t know how restrictive the NDA will be. I would like to keep talking to you all, because that is my way of paying it forward.
DC: I hope this is the last call. I wish everyone a great life. If we can’t talk about it afterwards, taking it slowly. I’ve enjoyed doing this with Tony, and I hope we’ve helped everyone.
Pam: Trust what you’ve learned, use some good professionals, and trust your gut. Don’t spend too much money upfront. Pay it forward; you’ll find great ways to do that. Have a great life.
Ray: This is our miraculous moment, looking forward to great things between marvelous Monday and tremendous Tuesday.
Tony: This is not goodbye, because as a minimum we will be allowed to have a goodbye call and tell you where to go. Be ready to go on a moment’s notice. I’ll still send out a Tony tweet with instructions. I won’t leave you high and dry. We’ve been giving you information for the last four years, so download what you need while you can. This text says that there should be an announcement from Iraqi parliament in an hour or so, and they are saying that the value of their currency will rise significantly. We’ll send out a tweet if anything happens.
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