Tony: Good morning, TNT! Today is Monday, April 14, 2014. I wanted to start this call off a little different. I want to thank PAM. I got some messages wanting to thank her as well, and letting her know we couldn’t do this without a woman’s support and direction. And we do follow her directions a lot of the time. Pam is mad at me for throwing her under the bus, but I do appreciate her. DC is in some short meetings, so he may come in for a while, we’ll see. I will answer some questions from the forum. Wait, let me take the Q and A off ‘hold’.
Where we’re at is plain and simple. Yes, we were really quiet over the weekend. Yes, it could have been announced over the weekend. Yes, I expect it now. Everything has been done, and we are waiting until they decide to do it. Everything is in place at the banks, the exchange centers. We were told we would get the 800 numbers over the weekend, and again this morning, and we haven’t as yet.
In Iraq the elections started on Friday, and they were told this would be completed by then, so they are very upset: Maliki, the politicians and people in the country. They were told that their economy would change on the 1. April, and then on 14. April. That is being broadcast on their television today. They don’t see it yet, and they are looking for that, and so am I. It’s not making them look good that they’re broadcasting that every day and nothing happened.
They had eight new banks over the weekend, and all had lower denominations. They are passing them out. The people over there are very frustrated because there are five regions where the prices and the currency are still different. They are talking to family and friends in other regions, and they are unhappy not to be on the same page. It’s not good for the country for that frustration to be mounting every day. They are playing with a powder keg.
This can happen at any moment. The process has been completed and we are waiting for that final stroke. The circle of information has been made even smaller. Who wants this to go and who doesn’t want it to go – we are still well aware of that, and the back wall time for this to happen. It could be today, tomorrow. The serious portion of this election in Iraq starts tomorrow; those go through the end of the month. Every day we don't’ see this is hurting this process – we know it and they know it, and they cannot let that go on.
They are still saying the RV occurred, it’s just a matter of the rest of this and when it is publicly announced. I see on the site, “why has this stopped, why can’t we do this or that”, and we want to be relaxed like they are. We could start up the campaign again, but what’s the point? If they were still cashing out the elite and blocking us, then maybe, but that’s not what is going on. Let’s not be doing something just for the sake of it. It’s at such a level that we are just waiting for activation, and everyone is on our side. It’s okay. I know it’s not what you want to hear – we all want the RV in the next hour! We want to pay our bills and survive and create our dreams. And it is coming.
Just because you called in on the phone line, that doesn’t mean you have to have your hand up. If you don't have a new question, push #2 and put you hand down.
Q: You mentioned before we will have 30 days to exchange dinar; does this apply to VNN? VNN is already internationally traded; there is no change to that.
Q: Is it possible to exchange one note of the dinar at the international rate and then your dong at another rate? It’s smart to exchange everything at the same time.
Q: Why are we having this call instead of an RV? We are doing this call to give you information! If you only want a call when the RV happens, you need not listen, you can just wait for the RV call!
Q: Are unresolved matters affecting this? There are still people who don’t want this RV to happen… people like BaghdadInvest, an Iraqi citizen who doesn’t want you to make money off his country. There are people out there who don’t want this to happen because of currencies that will go and go down, and they want to make more money off that. Not everyone is 1—0% happy, but all the same, nothing has to happen but the announcement. People keep trying to manipulate the system, and they caught some of them over the weekend. There are other things besides the RV, and if they can narrow that down to reduce the impact, then… This should have been announced on 1. April for the US operational rates; they could announce it tomorrow. We don’t know why they are delaying the announcement, but we do know the process is done. They went over procedures again at the bank and exchange centers and with security. We heard on Friday and Saturday to get ready for the 800 numbers, but here we are on Monday again.
Q: Someone said something about a DVD drive, about the books for you to read… Those books give you a better picture of the fractional banking system and how your money works. When you go in to do your appointment and negotiate your interest rates, it tells you what you are being offered. I spent Saturday evening with a banker discussing this. The banks get 1% back on your money every night, and they lend out ten times as much money as that, and they offer you 1% per year. If you don’t know that, how can you go in and say “I know what you are making, and you’re offering me something this low?”
Q: Are you still being invited to the platform situation in England? Yes, I am still looking at doing that. It’s risky, but “no risk, no reward”.
Q: If only citizens can cash out, what about residents? I think it’s six months’ residency with a green card, and they you can still exchange as a citizen. We won’t know until it’s actually activated.
Q: Why is the RV done and not released to the public? You said the RV would be released and then the GCR; what’s changed? It has happened as far as they are concerned; there are things going on in the background you cannot see with the bonds and DFI funds @ $3.71 rate. They are using that money, which could not have been released without the RV. All that is happening, we know the people involved, they are moving people over there… all we are waiting for is a live public announcement. Why we are waiting now, I cannot tell you, because all the steps have been done. It may be the US operational rates tomorrow. Iraq wants it done today. They were promised by the 11th, and then by another date I will not say. If not, we will see a real change this time. I am still confident in this month.
Q: Will this happen before the elections are over? I think so, because this will influence the elections. This is my perspective: for years, this has been coming down the election, the economy. For the last month Iraq has been broadcasting about the economy and ‘see what I did for you’. So why would we let it go until after the elections? It’s not just about getting elected but also not elected. This is building momentum again, and this time they cannot just say it’s about Maliki. The other politicians are upset and the other regions, too. If they don’t do it in time, the elections get screwed up, and they will have to appoint new people… and ten years worth of work has gone down the drain with fighting in the streets and fighting in parliament. People in the streets are tired and frustrated, they were given $3.71 on their cards, there are five different rates in different regions, and if that goes on for another two months, everyone will be pissed. It would destroy all the relationships and promises we made with people, it would go to all new people, and it would also mess with our economy, here and in other countries. They will be as annoyed with that! Our Government needs to do this right now, so that it can trickle down to the economy and release new numbers every quarter.
There are people on both sides, and on the other side they don’t want this to happen for the same reasons. But this is where we are, and I think we are going to see it now because the downside is just too negative. Once that match is lit, you cannot control the wildfire, and I don’t think they will make that mistake.
Q: What is the best analogy for the steps and announcements of what is required for final release? I think I answered that.
Q: Is there a strategic benefit to putting our exchange into a non-interest-bearing account? Is that sending a message that we don't’ need their services? No, that is to track the dinar.
Q: If we gain interest on a dinar account, will that be commingling? No, if the money is separate, then the interest on it is separate. This is your money. If you don’t want to exchange at contract rates, that is fine. You can go to your exchanger or bank, and exchange at the international or market rate, without a contract or an NDA. You can then move your money to tier 2 banks or credit unions. You have to know what you want to do with it, whether you’ll be moving round the country or around the world. You don’t have to be fearful of the big banks; you will be a major player, and you may need a bigger bank.
Q: What’s the best way to find a good attorney or tax accountant if you don’t know anyone? Go to rich or influential people in your community who are used to dealing with these sums of money. You want someone experienced in this and know exactly what you need to do.
Q: DC said “I guarantee it will not happen by 6pm Tuesday”… Huh? Have to wait on that one.
Q: Is there anything special that people in the UK and Europe that we need to know? If there is anything specific you need to know, I will try to find that out.
Q: Can I get a cashier check for one million dollars and have it payable to my brother without having to put a hold on it? I don't know; it depends.
Q: If we want to take the market rate for the done, how do we get an appointment for the day we are ready to sell? Call them, and ask if you can get an appointment for that day, and will you give me the rate THAT DAY? You have to go to the bank and do that. The banks will give you the rate the day you walk in there, I can tell you that.
407 caller: I’ve been on dinar since 2005, started listening a month ago. I’m a fish out of water, here. Have you any game plan so that I can get up to speed on the most critical things? I am not a member of the forum; is there some way to get more educated?
Tony: Yes, there is, but Pam has to tell you. Go on FreeConferenceCalls and listen to the call however far back they go.
Pam: Write down his number and I’ll call him.
Tony: I’m writing it down; she’ll tell you how to access those calls.
Caller: A week ago Friday, you mentioned about donating. How do I do that? If everyone contributes a little, that will go a long way. Thank you for all you do. And it’s my birthday!
Tony: Go to www.tntdinar.com, and on the home page, there is a place to click for donations. It’s a great day for you! Pam’s going to call you AND you were first on the call…!
I know everybody’s been trying, but even I keep saying “I wish this were the last call”. Everyone doesn’t like using PayPal, and my tech guy said we could set up donations through MoneyGram, but I keep hoping this will be the last call. Western Union and MoneyGram – that’s just too much trouble to go through. We can always use the donations, but I want to make it easy for you. At this point, though, we just have PayPal. It’s just too much trouble to set up other stuff, especially when this should be over. All the information I am getting says that it’s over. We stress and struggle to get it paid for just one more month or one more call. Even with a post office box, it’s just too much trouble. Hopefully this will be over with!
712 caller: I’m living the dream, Tony! A few years ago, I was in the union and we had to wait for our settlement. It took ten years because the person who owned the business had to raise money to pay us all off. Eventually we all got paid, but a lot of people lost their houses and cars while we were waiting. One guy, his wife and three kids were living in a station wagon until that happened! So tell people to keep hanging on; it’s going to happen, it’s just when. It’s like you are the union president and Pam is the vice president. It is real, real close, like you say. That one person has to push that button, and then everyone will be joyful and it will be God’s blessing, and it WILL change the world! Thank you Tony, Pam, Ray and all the mods, and thanks for the education in the three years I’ve been in…
Tony: It is a good thing, and we clearly know that it is going to happen, and it’s critical for it to happen at this time. The December thing and the IMF was something different; that is not the RV, and I cannot see it affected the RV.
609 caller: For those who were gifted one dinar note, does that require a notarized gifting letter?
Tony: I don’t know if you need a notarized gifting letter at all. I did that just to be complete. If you walk in with one note, I don’t know that you need a gift letter at all.
Caller: Will they be eligible to receive the higher rate if they call the 800 number, just for one note? Is there a minimum to make an appointment?
Tony: There is no certain amount; anyone can make an appointment and the contract rates.
409 caller: We’ve seen on the different forums information about 47 cents for the VNN, but we are not seeing it on our end.
Tony: It shows at 0.000047, and that is not 47 cents! It hasn’t changed in any of the currency converters or at any of the banks, and it’s just not there, sorry.
Caller: I got involved in this thing with my Aunt in Dallas…
Tony: Just so you know, I like people in Texas. DC is the one who talked about the buses pulling up at banks in Texas. Three members of my intel team know Texas well, and they are giving me the information, just so you know.
903 caller: I’m in Texas, too. What’s going to happen in the US after the RV? I listen to interviews and read different publications, and they are talking about both directions – that we will be in a great position, not just those who are exchanging but those in daily life. Then I hear the dollar will go down, that the petrodollar will become the “yuandollar”, and that things will do down, the dollar will crash, etc.
Tony: I get calls from Canada and Europe saying the US dollar went down 2%; that is a huge chunk. We know the market was going down Friday with no explanation. We know the dollar will go down another 3% when this happens.
Caller: If people are holding 13 trillion dollars in cash and want to get out of it by exchange or buying hard assets or something tangible, isn’t that going to affect everybody?
Tony: It’s already happening. That’s why they have been dragging this out and to defer it so that we don’t take the hit. That’s why they didn't’ let it go through on 1. April. People aren’t concerned about that, they want the RV to happen, but this is bigger than us (dinarians). People don't want to hear/understand that portion, they just want to have their money.
Caller: I am in town to get 40 more gift letters for people I can help or affect, but that’s only a few people.
Tony: In order for the GCR to occur, the dollar has to devalue. They are trying to build in some safeguards because we are going to take a hit, especially on gas. When the US dollar goes down, we will take the hit in many areas. The government is trying to build in some back walls on that, and that doesn’t happen overnight. Those are the things going on that don’t exactly affect the RV and when it happens, but when the GCR happens, that is a whole different ball game – and they are trying to play both sides of that.
Caller: Is there anything specific you can suggest to help our communities, such as helping the orphanages and such? One gal I know was abandoned, and she is now getting her doctorate looking at that, and I want to work with her to set something up.
Tony: Everyone can find someone like that to help. You can be a sponsor or benefactor to one of those kids or someone else who needs some backup. If you just pick one kid that is coming out of an orphanage with nothing, you can help with school, getting an apartment or a job, and you can promise to be there for that kid, no matter what. You don’t have to create a nonprofit or charity or even a program; you can just help individuals if you want. I want to get as much out of this as I can, and set up my family for the next five generations, and also to give away 50% of what I get, in my lifetime.
Caller: I really appreciate all that you do, in your answers and everything else you.
919 caller: I would love to be super-fantastic, too! What about a different plan of action? If there is a back wall date, if they could give that out and then a week or month past then, we would not have to say “any minute, any hour”. Would that work?
Tony: We don’t need them to do that, without them. We can say “I wouldn’t look for this beyond 30. April”. That is way past the date I’m looking for! That works for some people, but we’ve said that for years: just pick a date and wait until someone calls you. But we are right in the moment, we don't’ know the hour or day because it is restricted, and the closer it comes the tighter the circle. If it isn’t done pretty darn soon, they don't want the consequences of that that, after ten years of work.
Caller: There are many countries and situations and we don't know all the pieces, but every call it seems that we are waiting on ‘any minute’. [restated same position] What do we do then?
Tony: There is nothing we can do until it happens. If it doesn’t happen by the end of the elections, then they have broken all their promises and ruined every agreement they have put in place over the last ten years and abused all their trust and their citizens belief in their own government. Does 30. April sound like a good date now? Yes, but I hope it doesn’t go to then.
Caller: There should be a way for every individual to be honest and not play games and do the right thing.
Tony: All they do is play games between the governments and countries, trying to get the upper hand. That goes on constantly, and we cannot stop it even when they lie to your face. That’s what they do. Looking at the bottom line, and they are hearing everything we are saying, there is a difference between “we know what you are doing and we can expose you” and “I’m hurting because I need this money”. All the dinarians only add up to five million people vs. the 350 million who will never have this opportunity. They have to think about those people, too. Even if we gave people money, that still wouldn’t be the whole economy and people. This is about the effect this will have on everyone else. Not everybody looks at the big picture.
Caller: It’s sad that they don’t look at that picture, now and in eternal life. In Revelation it says that you will have to face God with what you did in this life. It’s sad that the game-players are running our country and the rest of the world. We, on the inside, know more than those in the rest of the world, and we need to see the bottom line.
Tony: North Carolina people are just so much smarter and more compassionate by those people in Texas…
508 caller: Thank for all the good work and what you do. I’ve only been on the call since September, and cannot get onto the forum. Could Pam give me a call and help me?
Caller: I cannot find those books you mentioned; I can’t get onto the forum so I cannot get the books or even the list of books.
Pam: On the forum there is The Millionaire Mind, The Millionaire Next Door, Who Moved My Cheese?, Confessions of an Economic Hitman, and The Creature from Jekyll Island.
Tony: I’ll try to put out a blast today with all those book titles. Instead of Pam calling you, I’ll give you Pam’s number… I love messing with Pam!
724 caller: If this keeps dragging on, there is a woman I know with six kids who will be evicted, and I’m not in a much better place. Can everyone please start helping each other out?
Tony: I do understand and I wish that I could tell you it will happen today or tomorrow. It should be, but I cannot tell you that is the case until it is the case. I cannot put something together to help everybody, because on other boards people have been scammed out of their money and we had to get involved. All we can do is hope this over with, give out the info, and hope you can hold on…
Pam? Entertain them for a second; I have to take this call.
Pam: Now I can throw Tony under the bus, and you know he deserves to got there! Please take care of the Mods and transcribers; they do this for nothing, and it takes up their time. They put up with so much abuse. Our site would not the same without them.
Tony passes on what he hears, because it’s what you all ask for. You have to be adults enough to handle that this is what he is hearing or our team is hearing. Please don’t blame him if it doesn’t turn our the way you expect, because he’s giving you what you’re asking for.
Tony: You’re right; I don't’ get to make the decision, and if I could it would have been done four years ago. This call is about the latest information or briefings. I can tell you where certain people are, their locations, what they are watching, plans for after the RV… We know all that, but it still doesn’t tell us what time or day. They are discussing us, what our package will look like, and maybe that’s too much information for the average person. I see you in Twitter or the forum “Nothing has changed, why are they doing a call?” Those people have to take a break and do something else. Your anger and frustration will not make it happen any faster! You are just showing that you don’t understand how this works in the real world. We have been doing four years of education so that you can understand what is going on and what you need to do when your world changes and people start asking you for money or your name gets sold to someone who wants to draw you into their investments and such. One of our team is already experiencing that – they called him all weekend! So…
661 caller: Good to speak with you. I have a comment when you were talking about what really goes on in banks. I used to work in banks and 95% of the people in banking don’t have a clue about the fraud they are perpetuating on the American people. It’s only after I left banking and read The Creature from Jekyll Island that I understood that they create money out of thin air. When you sign that loan document, there is nowhere for the loan officer to sign off on it. After the client leaves, they stamp the back and open an account in that person’s name, and the money is put in the account without the knowledge of the client. That is ten times the money on the loan agreement. I don’t know how these bankers live with themselves. If I had known, I would never have gone into banking. That really does happen!
Tony: I am not mad at Bernie Madoff, because he did the exact same thing the banks do every day. THAT is the biggest Ponzi scheme in the history of the world. The only difference is that the banks are part of the Federal Reserve.
Caller: That is the only thing that protects them. The US is in bankruptcy right now, and has been for 90 years. The US is a private corporation and they see us as sheep. A friend told me this years ago, and I said he was crazy. Well, my grandfather the Senator may not have known about this, but I started to study, and I’m still in shock!
Tony: Two people in the history of the US have tried to do away with the Fed, and they were both assassinated.
Caller: We know that the dollar has devalued, and they are putting together a monetary system that will be international. What happens if they hold the Reserve to the last day of rolling into that new currency, and give us the old (less valuable) dollar?
Tony: The new Basel III currency will be asset-backed. When the banks loan money, they get Federal Reserve notes to back that money. The new money is about backing that money with UST notes, like mortgage notes. We will not have dollar bills that are UST as well as dollar bills that are from the Fed. These are not bills, they are notes that will signed for the currency. It took a year for them to bring out a new DESIGN of the 100 dollar bills. They are not going to do that overnight as a surprise. Nobody would accept that – it doesn’t make sense!
While we are on the subject, someone wanted Pam and DC to explain how our government will change overnight, with a whole new staff in the government and the White House. Pam, can you explain that to us?
Pam: There he is again, throwing me under an 18-wheeler!
Tony: I got that email this morning. I was dying laughing at that. But you had a question?
Caller: I think you’ve answered my question. I thank you all; I have done this in the past, it takes a lot of work and dedication, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Tony: I thought it would be one week and we’re done, and it’s four years later…
904 caller: On the forum I’ve been reading a lot about taking away the dollar and having everything work on credit… is that so?
Tony: You mean, like a cashless society? Twenty years ago, I was working in a networking company, and they were bringing out an ID card with all your details, passport, fingerprints, etc., and this would be your “national card”. This card would also be able to track you in the system. You could pay for anything with the card, which would make us a cashless society. That would shut down all the drug lords, corruption, etc. This was twenty years ago, that this is the future.
Everything we were supposed to have, Iraq is now having. Their cards are a thumbprint card, an Iris card, and they are reaching for a cashless society. Will that eventually get to us? Yes. Someone I know is putting together a cashless card and we'll see that in the next 90 days. It does everything I said, and it gives Big Brother the opportunity to shut you down at any time. I know people don’t want to hear that , but you didn't’ want to know that eight-track tapes were being replaced, either. Our country is the one that put the card in Iraq, and it is going to come here, yes.
Caller: You mentioned the positives, but the negatives outweigh the positives. Is this country still a democracy?
Tony: You get to decide who is put in and who makes up these things. It’s all about what we agree to. They are hoping that everything is made so positive that you overlook the bad stuff. That’s how many other things were slipped by us.
Caller: The same with the banks – will the banks just do whatever they want to do with our money. Once it’s in the bank, we have no control that money, and soon the government will be able to freeze our funds whenever they want.
Tony: The reality is that it’s all digital, and the money is not in the bank right now! That is why there laws in place stipulating that you can only withdraw $500 in cash per week. We need to have a ‘bank day’ where we transfer our money into smaller banks and credit unions. But even then, if we all demand physical cash, then banks will shut down because they don’t have it. You don't have control of that money now; if you go in and ask for $20,000, they’ll say they need two days to get it for you.
Caller: You want to protect future generations, but there is no protection from putting money in the bank…
Tony: That’s why I tell you to buy gold and silver. The law changed last year to say that if you have more than $500 in physical gold, you’ll have to tell them exactly where it is located, and if it’s not there, you may end up with five years in prison. They are always preparing for the worst. We are not the only country like that; every country is doing that. We just hope that it never comes to that, but there is always a contingency. It didn’t happen in this Presidency, it’s been happening over the last 50 or 60 years, one bit at a time. But it’s definitely going in a clear direction. We cannot blame President Obama, Clinton or even Bush; we let it happen piece by piece. It’s just reality.
I’m getting text; we are dealing a little too much with reality. It’s not anti-government, it’s just things that you don’t know. And that works to give us the life we have in the US, and what attracts people to live here in the US. Most people don’t go to other places because they think those other countries are the ‘land of opportunity’. I know what’s really going on, I still live here, and I’m protecting my family’s future as best I can.
The text actually reads “Trend on today’s call is rather anti-government; can we get some patriotic callers to balance the call?”
626 caller: I finally got on the call! I’m so excited! I’m doing cartwheels as I’m driving a truck! I listen to your calls all the time. The only thing I didn’t write down was the Ten Things, and I cannot get on the forum to retrieve that. My wife is always asking me “what did Tony say today?”
Tony: That’s great! Those Ten Things are YOUR ten things… have you decided what bank, what bank account, what you’re going to do first, have you got your trust/foundation you want… Every individual will have different things and everyone will be so excited that they need to have those first things they need to do, like setting aside 50% aside for taxes and 25% into investments. That’s what you need to think about and decide NOW.
Caller: Yes, and like DC said, I’m doing it slowly because I only have one shot at this. I’m giving my brother and my daughter one million dong each, with a gift letter.
Tony: That’s right. You have the rest of your life to do this right. Get your bills covered so you have less stress. And give those gifts and gift letters BEFORE the RV if possible because that way YOU will not get taxed on the exchanged value.
806 caller: I listen to all the worries and such. I wanted to buy my mother a home, and I buried her on Friday. I feel so fortunate that I was told about this, so I will do for my other family members what I wanted to do for my mom. They don’t know that I have this money, and I just want to tell everyone to keep their hopes up, because this will come through.
Tony: My condolences; I’m sorry you had to go through that. You can still do things in the name of your loved ones. My aunt died years ago, and she said to my mother that if she just hangs around enough, I would make a whole new world for her. She has been going through this for the last four years, including having her leg removed last month. IF I could make the decision, it would have been done four years ago! All we can do is listen for the announcement. We know every day is one day closer, because people are getting more and more upset that this announcement was not made.
Caller: I truly hope your mom is here to see this. Remember, millions of people don’t even know what we are doing.
Tony: that’s right, and there are millions who sold their dinar, and will now regret that they weren’t able to hold on.
Caller: I am from Texas, by the way…
713 caller: I’m from Texas! I’ve been listening for as long as I can remember, and it’s been tough since TNT started up, though I’m grateful for TNT and the forum. I know that you are a smart analytical guy. December 1 was the official RV on the books; for what purpose of stringing this out? What is your gut feeling on this? [more of the same]
Tony: First of all, it’s not about US. They are not stringing US along. What they are doing is agreement in place and times; they are playing with each other, and we are just getting the information. They have 10-20 scenarios, investigations, tracking things… there are a lot of things happening. It’s not about us. When they said it would happen in December because of the budget, etc., a lot of people got caught with the hand in the cookie jar. They don’t put it all on the table at the same time. They put ten items on the table of which they want maybe one or two. I don't want to affect what is going on with the country. In December we thought the negotiations were over and they were giving out the money. In fact, they were still playing their game, and we threatened to expose that game. They were really not ready, and we were forcing them to do something that was not to our best advantage. Now, they backed off, stopped paying everyone else, and said they’d give us a shot at the same opportunity. But they asked us to back off because it was affecting the international situation, and I’m not going to do that. The rates have been set, and we wouldn’t know if they’ve been telling us the truth until the public announcements are made.
Caller: When I got in, I was looking at $1 per dinar. Then it went up and up, and we heard about the people cashing up. I can understand government and corporation things, but then we did the twitter thing, and it was exciting that we could make a different. Now we are being told to shut it down, and then the statesman called you and said it would be in an few days ago – and that is a month ago now. So now they don't want you put out the rates, and I’m thinking that it’s because we won’t be happy with the rates. I know TNT will be the first in the door, but… why are they shutting you down on the rates?
Tony: Really our time is up. I give you guys the reality, and sometimes you’ll like it and sometimes you won’t. Things I say could affect the process, and people get emotional. Years ago, everyone said this would come in at 10 cents. Then we said $3.71, and everyone was ecstatic. That was the only rate you were ever supposed to know about. Those higher rates were always there, but they were for certain purposed. We brought those rates out; they were never meant for you. There was a chink in their plan. The masses will never going to get $30 per dinar. The system was not built for that, and they had to renegotiate for US to get that. The plan was always for them to get that, but not us. The congress people, the old boy network, they always get that better deal. They took the RV, added in the GCR, that exposed the RV, and it expanded the circle of people who knew. That happened in December. We protested, they renegotiated, and they said, “Okay, that is not fair, we will create an opportunity for as well”. That was all we wanted to do: that when the RV comes through, whenever that happens, we will be treated fairly. So we stopped the protest so that they continue the process. They are not trying say “don’t talk about it”, they are saying, “don't talk about the rates” because then people get over-excited. Some would accept the $3.71 rate, and then the rest of us might not get the contract rates. So now we are being quiet because they don’t want anyone to know the exact moment this will happen. They want people to go to the bank quietly, and they were not originally expecting five million people doing that. We are told that every part of the process is done. If I told you every day how the rates are fluctuating, people would be getting all anxious over something they cannot change or control.
Caller: But today is no different than last month. [more of the same frustration] Twitter is the only thing that made us feel like we had a voice.
Tony: Let me tell you what is different. The bonds couldn’t happen until the RV happened. The money being moved now couldn’t happen unless the RV already happened. The RV could have happened any time, but Iraq couldn't be accepted into the WTO (last week) unless the RV happened.
Tony: The RV could have happened in December; everything else happened after the RV. They changed the date because they wanted to go back to the bargaining table. The RV must have happened for the bonds, WTO, etc. to be here now. They changed the cards on 1. December, and that was the official date of the RV, in the books, and then they changed it. They can do whatever they want to do, but now they have sold bonds based on that rate, and they cannot go back on the transaction. They cannot undo those transactions. I don’t see that happening.
My gut feeling is that it is being done based on the dates they are telling me. Until I go to the bank, it hasn’t happened, but based on the information I have, I feel it’s happening. I am not in the conference room. Last week, we said what we felt would make the most sense in terms of the rollout, and I got a message saying “you don’t get a vote”.
Caller: You told us 1. April was critical for Maliki to get re-elected. Some people feel that M can be kept out by not rolling this out until after the election.
Tony: If they don’t want Maliki in, do you think they would tell him that? Do you know what the ramifications of that would be? Let’s be smarter and understand how these things are done. If that were so, would I actually come on this call and say “that’s the plan”?
Caller: It would be great if you could tweet us if you get anything interesting. Thank you.
Tony: We are in a great, great place. Everything has been done, and we are the last point. I don’t know what the hour or day is, but it’s crucial to get it done because everyone in Iraq is upset. They know it could be done because it’s on their cards. They know it’s possible, it’s all over their television, and they say WE are holding it up. Actually the IMF has the reins. There are several ways this could happen, and it could happen at any time. I am feeling good about it. Everyone is treating it as if it’s done. Money is being transferred. [transmission ended]