Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#
Tony: Good afternoon, TNT. it's Wednesday, August 13, 2014. We have a lot of information that we will try to share with you, and where we are, and why you should be happy. But first:
DC: I want to acknowledge some people in DC – hello to the senator’s aide I spoke to this morning, Tony and I both say hello. Thank you for that.
Tony: I sent out some tweets this morning. We had some different ones… for some reason I thought about a movie called A Day Without A Mexican. It’s a great movie, and it talks about what would happen if all the Mexicans disappears. If they weren’t here, this country would not be the same – just get the move. Things have changed and that is progress. But it made me look at some things we have been discussing in the intel team this morning. We tried to get more information and verify the intel. We are trying to bring you the best info we can, so that you hold onto your dinar, while also assuring you that things are moving forward and still in our favor… and we want to do that without interfering with the process by putting it out too soon or too much and then they have to change the process.
Most times I am reasonable, and the rest of the team, too. We try to make sure we are not hurting the process, especially when it is not hurting us, and still let you know we are that bit closer. Many people out there are just idiots, and I am giving you a much nicer classification than many others! So today when we were trying to get more information so we didn’t know when the call would be, we are also trying to get along with the other side too. Then we get comments from idiots saying we are taking time to make things up or create BS for you – I don’t even know what benefit we would get out of that!
For the last 3-4 years that I have been here, most people have learned throughout this process – and we have, too. I think I might know 90% of what’s going on, and DC says I know 60% of what’s going on. Even with all the backroom meetings we have, we still only know about 60%, and at that we know twice as much as anyone else. We have so many sources from so many different countries, and we don’t believe anyone is Gospel. Every single one has been wrong about the date and the time, because we’ve heard it from so many – and it’s because something changed, not because they are lying. They tell you what they think is the right thing, and we pass it on.
DC: So far as we know, 47 different countries are listening to this call, and many of their agencies are listening to this call and our personal calls as well. I really don’t know for sure how many are listening to our personal calls, but it’s really annoying!
Tony: You have to realize that we are doing certain things that we are obligated to do. We are in a position where they call and say “You shouldn’t have said this or that, and now they don’t want to do this other thing.” So you are saying that Tony controls the whole world economy because of one thing he said on a call? We cannot dictate when, where and how, although we could cause some problems/issues. We are not here to do that, but to help you guys get the information so that we can all get paid and goon with our lives. But it’s not just about the money. With all the countries who are listening, we have to let them know we care about more than just money. That’s why I sent out the video clip for you to watch. Maybe we have forgot who we are and what we stand for. The money is going to come, but shouldn’t we let people know that we care about the people in Iraq who are refugees or otherwise affected by all this stress. There are people in Iraqi Internet cafes who want to induce you to sell your dinar because they only see a bunch of Americans making money, and they just want their money. That’s not what we want to represent, not at this point. The money is coming, but there are other things we are concerned about as well.
We cannot be perceived in that way, because that is how we’ve been seen for the last year and a half, and people don’t want us to have all that money. They see more of those ‘give me the money’ comments than what is really happening. So they are having more meetings, and there are going to be unexpected things that had popped up this week. I wish it had gone on Saturday ro Sunday as expected. That’s the reality. If you expect to have millions of dollars, you have to know that it isn’t necessarily going to roll out the way we want. We have to look at the bigger situation, and you have to figure out what makes sense, and not just about ‘give me my money’ and going to the bank. That may be why some got into this, because someone told them to spend a little to get a lot. But by this time, you should have learned that there are other factors and things you have to do that. You need to have some education about how to use this money, and how it is affecting the rest of the world, and how to bless others as this continues. :This is the process we have gone through, those more intelligent than the others who just want the money. Like God, we have to look out for babies and “fidiots”. If you think that is you, so bet it. the shoe fits, wear it!
We have been having a campaign for the last three weeks or so, asking people calling how they will pay it forward. That’s the only thing they have against us, seeing us as a bunch of idiots who just want to spend money. If they see that we care about others in our world, then they will understand differently.
DC: Thanks for your comments, Tony. I’ll give a quick overview. Bottom line, folks, is that things look very, very good. It’s similar to Monday where we had concrete steps in Iraq and to push the RV out. We’ll give you as much as we can on that.
I want to walk through some of this information and how it all works together. We talk to a team of people every day, seven days a week, sometimes for many hours. Each of those team members have contacts that they talk to, ranging from the janitor to the boss. Each has their own perspective, and we know that for everyone we hear definitive answers from, others are still in opposition. Some of their sources are very good, but they only see their own chunks. Nobody has the whole picture and it’s constantly moving. For instance, we have Kurdish MPs who are in Parliament voting, and they say what they are voting on, in regular or special sessions. Then we talk to a UST person who says they haven’t voted on anything and we have to wait until Iraq gets its act together. The Kurds say “everything is fine”, and the UST hasn’t talked to them, so they don’t know that. They don’t’ necessarily see what’s going on across the pond.
We are trying to put this together, and it’s constantly changing. Sometimes all the agencies will be singing the same song, or the US politicos, and that is always good. But it’s a constantly moving target, and we hope to give you the best information as we go. Not everyone wants this to go through, and there is a lot of variance on what has been completed. I don’t have all the answers, nor does Tony, nor any other gurus. Anybody who has an absolute lock on it is full of BS. So listen to other gurus, and where their information is coming from. This is brutal in terms of up and down, and it’s rough on everybody. I’m built for this kind of stuff, and it’s rough on me! I might have 60% of the info, but we all have to continue to engage.
Also, there is no harm in NOT listening to us – if you cannot take the rollercoaster and you have to take a break, that’s fine. Some days I think that I need a day off! It’s okay to back off. Once it goes through, you will find out about it and that will be nice.
Tony: Two days ago, we thought we needed three more seats in Parliament. This morning, I heard there were nine seats to fill! Then five minutes ago, they said that wo more have been filled. We know this morning there was more movement agin.
DC: On Monday morning our time, Iraq nominated Abadi as PM. Maliki threw a fit and still has not given up. More countries and political parties are backing the new PM. He continues to be inclusive, and even nominated a Sunni Minister of Defense. That was a huge move, and very important that he made it public. That was not necessary for the RV, but it was important to public confidence on the inclusivity of the government. Then one of the senior Kurds said that they would support Abadi, and he offered to go to them to discuss the best positions for the Kurds. He is putting his money where his mouth is, and that is taking the wind out of the sails of those who think Iraq cannot act like a democracy. This is calming down religious leaders, and neighboring countries are helping as well because everybody wins as Iraq becomes more stable.
They are making so much progress that it takes the impetus away from those who wish to move the goalposts (again.) Iraqis should feel proud at how that process is getting on. The rest of the Cabinet posts have been nominated and now be voted in. Does that need to be done for the RV? No. Are people using that as an excuse? Yes. Iraq is making credible moves forward. Maliki has moved most of his papers out of his office and burned many of his files. Some of his bodyguard has been killed. Most of the Iraqi military are taking a stance for Iraq, not for one person. Maliki is still there, but not really in play. He will always be a problem, and Iraq will have to deal with that.
ISIS is being routed with our airstrikes and others, with France and other countries providing support for the Kurdish forces. I’ll go over that a bit more. ISIS wants to start a Caliphate ruled by Sharia law in Syria and Iraq, and they are being bloody and ruthless about that. The rest of the world is saying NO to that. ISIS have done some horrific war crimes already, and this has been helped by Maliki giving the military instructions to go on vacation instead of standing and fighting ISIS. This provided a target of opportunity for ISIS, so they have been seizing bridges, dams and poorly defended cities, because they can. They cannot take on a direct fight with the Army or other armed forces, so they are creating a PR campaign. However, in terms of the RV, most of them will go away as soon as they have some RV money in their pockets. That is a strong argument for getting this done.
Tony: That is why the Sunni Defense Minister is important, because Sunnis will not fight other Sunnis. There have also announcements made about the banking system in the last 24 hours, and those do affect the RV in a very encouraging way.
DC: This is adding more momentum to getting the rest of the world to accept the RV. There are anti-money laundering and anti-corruption laws coming into effect, and that makes the rest of the world happier. The CBI and others have put out press statements saying they are implementing banking reforms, and the revaluation as it applies to everyone’s financial balance sheets. They have to use the new rates to reflect the new dinar. The IMF notified everyone that they have accepted a large number of the last minute changes by the US and the CBI. The CBI cleaned those up, and the IMF accepts that this is there. The process is triggered and is still on the rollout plan. That has changed many times in the last few days, but everyone is now in agreement on how to move forward while solving various issues. That plan has modified slightly, and no one is now moving the goal posts. WE understand that we are now in the new rollout (modified yesterday) plan as we speak.
Tony: The IMF officially recognized that Iraq has an internationally traded currency. That has completely gone through. This morning we got a call from an Iraqi citizen in another country, and he said that today, for the first time, he could use his Qi card internationally. They are dancing in the streets about that.
DC: So what about us? That rollout plan we are not privy to, but we know most of what is going on. If they are able to spend money on the Qi cards internationally, then how far behind can we be? The guy was screaming on the phone that he could use the card, at the rates they have been showing for the last few weeks. He was so happy!
In the US, the UN Security Council is happy, and also there have been nonstop meetings between all the organizations involved in this from intelligence, to UST, the Fed, the administration and all the rest. They are all agreed on the plan.
Tony: For three years now we’ve been talking about this, and we said that at the end ridiculous stuff would come out. When it’s all quiet, when they tell us not to talk about X, Y or Z (thought what can we talk about then?), when it’s that quiet and critical, that is the quiet before the storm, the storm being what we will be celebrating when this goes through and it helps all of us here and in other countries. We are not telling you that in an hour you will be at the back, but I can tell you that we are here. I can’t tell you to be patient – we have said that too many times – but be calm and confident. We do know what you are going through, because we are feeling it ten times a day, with calls telling us to ramp up and then it doesn’t happen. I wouldn’t want you going through what we go through. WE keep hearing from various people “we were ready, then this happened”. We are absorbing as much of the pain as we can, but we want to give you the information we can because this is still the best opportunity you will ever have and I hope you are ready to take advantage of it and pay if forward.
DC: I hope the callers will indulge me and talk about how they intend to pay it forward.
Tony: It gives everyone great ideas, not just here in the US but with a global reach. People in other countries can duplicate what we want to do here...
713 caller: Some of my PIF plans include starting a foundation to help the Yazidi people. They have been marginalized for a long time, and they have lost everything because of ISIS. I am a rich Western female, so I want to partner with someone who can help on the ground. We owe them. Their blood has cause this opportunity for me to have this. My parents, brothers and husband were all veterans. I want to build some houses for Wounded Warriors. I am in Houston, and there is a nearby community that helps people with mental handicaps like autism. I want to build a similar residence in the name of a friend’s brother.
What should we be looking for on the news that will tell us the process is complete?
DC: Meaning the RV process?
Caller: For example, some sources have been sayign the Iraqi government has to be seated and stable, and until then Turki will not release the RV.
DC: We have a good feel for where the CBI stands, and we don’t think that’s really an issue any longer. We do think that there are the dinarians, and then there is larger part of the public who have some dinar in their sock drawer. Don’t expect a large announcement; they will try to keep it as quiet as possible. So look for “Iraqi currency reform” or “Iraqi banking reform”. Otherwise, just listen to us or other gurus, because it will be under the radar for most, expressed in innocuous forms.
Tony: You will know because you are listening to us! There will also be a lot of new government programs coming out to help people, including mortgages and such.
Caller: I wasn’t expecting an announcement as such; for dinarians listening to you…
Tony: Watch Twitter and our four sites; we’ll tweet it and put it in the forum, and from there it will go from site to site. There are five of us designated to pass on information once this process happens.
404 caller: The UN site has been down most of the morning, and today is the day for the announcing rates to go into effect on the 15th.
DC: That will be announced after the fact, but being down for maintenance right now is a good reason to be intrigued.
Caller: I’m intrigued by the description of the rollout plan. Is this more like dominoes, and the RV is the last one to fall? Or are there many parts that are triggering at once.
DC: Some have pushed their dominoes, and some have not, as yet.
Caller: What is your code name, Tony? I know it was Hotdog King in Iraq…
Tony: I can tell you, but you would probably like it better from Pam… and then I can tell you want her code name is!
DC: In Iraq they call me the Broker –don’t know if that’s flattering or not. They also call me the Psychic Nerd because they cannot figure out where I get the intel from.
Tony: It may not be flattering, but it’s still better than mine! <laughter>
337 caller: I’ve been listening to everyone saying what they will do with their money, what they want to give to people. I’ll be 67 this month, and I’ve seen the moral decline since the Welfare State has taken over in America. People want to give their money away, but if you help people earn what they get, that’s a lot better. America works better when people are working hard and spending money that they earn. It gives them more self-esteem. It makes me sad to hear about people giving so much. So I have rethought helping people rather than giving to people.
Tony: I understand what you are saying, and many people see it as a hand up, not a hand out. It depends on who you are helping. You don’t’ help people just waiting for their welfare checks coming in. I had a rental house, and a woman there is not looking for a job because they pay her more on assistance. That’s not the person I’m looking to help. We are trying to find people with a good reason to give to, like wounded warriors, or children or adopted children – those are people we want to help, not those who don’t make an effort to help themselves. That is our perspective, and you might want to look at it a bit differently.
Caller: I look at people on television and I see these old Jewish people standing in food lines in Israel, struggling to get a box of food. Then I look in my own community, and see older people who cannot work, 80 or 90 years old, and I just want to help people like that.
Tony: Exactly – it’s not that they don’t want to, they are not able to. Those are the people we want to help.
Caller: [more of the same]
Tony: I don’t know anything about ‘crazy checks’; that must be a Texas thing.
Caller: I have a business, I’m a baker, and I want to teach the wounded warriors how to do what I do. That’s the way I’m going to do it, and I wanted to share that with you.
510 caller: [Condolences] My mother goes to church with the oldest woman in the United States. I have a question: Iraq has a PM-designate. Why do they call it that, and not simply call Abadi the PM?
Tony: It has to do with being voted on and sworn in.
DC: They have already done a bunch of straw polls and voted on him in a non-binding way, so they know he will get it by a landslide. They are negotiating on the equivalent of the Cabinet and getting those on board. They feel confident about all that, but have to have a formal seating later. Abadi is gaining support because he is consulting and moving forward swiftly. So he will get the overwhelming vote. It’s just last-minute paperwork, so he is acting like the PM.
Tony: there just needs to be a formal swearing and ceremony. Meanwhile, Abadi is directing the military and acting as the PM. Maliki has moved out of his office, and even though he says he is not leaving, everyone is happy to see him go. Even with the 30-day thing we’ve been hearing, we do think it will all be accomplished this week.
719 caller: I have a friend on here from Texas, although I’m in Colorado. [DC came on – wrong person from Texas!] Hey, DC, I picked my husband up in a bar in Texas 37 years ago, and we’re still together! I posted on the forum that I didn’t appreciate the tweet about the idiots who think we are just here to get paid. What I meant to say is that many people are hurting, and I thought that was a poor choice of words. If you had said ‘fidiots’, we would have understood better. I just wanted to clarify that. One of the Mods thoroughly chastised me and I try first to understand. Some people thought that applies to them.
Tony: If the shoe fits, wear it. Worse case scenario, you’re losing your car, house or job, do you think that there are not 500,000 in Iraq who would trade places with you any day? Because there are just that many of them. Homeless shelters here at least have hot water and food – they don’t have that in Iraq. We all want the money, but we have it a hundred times better than they do. We want that money for our families, but we know it’s a process. We cannot force it, we have to live through it… and even with that, we have it better than those people on the mountain, without food or water or electricity, or those who know that their door can be kicked in at any moment. When I think of those people, I cannot go just for the money.
Caller: They talked about the new PM last night on the news, and all the problems M has caused – he even tried to bomb the new PM’s house! Then an ex-CIA guy who now consults said that the new PM would solve a lot of these issues. Once he fully controls the military, a lot of this would cease. I was surprised they said so much!
Tony: It’s the truth. They leak things a little at a time so that people can get used to it. Then when they do things, people are half-expecting it; it’s not a surprise. Also, the CBI is pleading for the RV because they know the effects tomorrow if they do it today.
DC: This is an immensely stabilizing thing, like the partial release a few months ago that calmed down a million man march in an hour. Rich people don’t fight – they have lawyers for that. In ten years, Iraq will be breathtakingly different. The difference in the last ten years has been amazing, and it takes very little action to make that happen. Just release the contacts and watch out! It will be amazing.
Caller: There was a report from one of the older Christian city – would people be able to go back post-RV, or will ISIS continue to control that?
DC: The hard core guys won’t give up, but for the most part people will go back because ISIS will fall apart, and humanitarian aid will come in to rebuild the country. Those towns will then get consistent electricity, roads, clean water, and Internet. Many contractors are just waiting to move and do their work. The local people will see drastic changes once this is released.
Caller: Will we have to wait until 1st September, or will it be before then?
DC: We are a lot closer than September 1st. [Tony: Good answer!]
405 caller: About selecting a bank, we’d like to know that we don’t have to send our currency off, but they can check it at the bank? Can we find out on the 800 call?
Tony: I don’t’ think that isn’t part of the process of the 800 numbers. If they give you the second number for the bank you want, and then you can check with them. The big Five will all be involved.
Caller: I don’t want to get there and find we have to send it off, that’s all.
617 caller: The link you sent out on the tweet, that didn’t open when I tried it.
Tony: Did you look at it on your phone or on your computer? People had issues on the phone, but I also think it’s just the volume of people doing it at the same time. I could get it on the computer, not on the phone. The title is “The most honest 3.5 minutes of television ever”, so look for that on YouTube. It’s a great message, not so much that America has gone down and we’re no longer #1, but the real message is what we stand for, in the past and what we should stand for now and in the future. See what we should be striving to do when we get this money to regain our place in the world.
Caller: If we take the contract rate for, say, the dinar, and sign an NDA, are we bound for the dong if we take the international rate for that.
Tony: I think the NDA covers all the currencies, though we haven’t got the package yet.
Caller: Say I went in to one bank and exchanged at the international rate, and then went to a different bank for the contract rate…
Tony: We don’t know about that yet, but I hope we’ll find out with the packages.
636 caller: There are two things I’ll do with the funds. One foundation will be for the animals, because many don’t have the fund for their pets to have surgeries, etc. Also. Some people want to have babies because fo various issues, and don’t have the money for IV fertilizations, which cost about $12,000 per shot. We want to help those people because my wife and I couldn’t’ have children and couldn’t afford IV.
I have a friend who has a tax lien; can she just exchange?
Tony: They won’t care about a tax lien, it’s just a normal exchange for them.
Caller: Are people still getting paid now?
DC: My understanding is that a few people might be, but basically they have stopped all that, because they are in a bizarre world where that has taken the previous exchanges off the table.
Caller: People are extra-frustrated because some people have already exchanged.
DC: I think we are all frustrated by that, but because this is going to be done in the very near future, I think we will all get over it and move on.
Caller: Do I put a value in the gift letter?
Tony: I just put the amount I am giving them, in dong or dinar, not what I paid for it.
Caller: Is there a cap for the dong?
DC: We know there is going to be one, but don’t know what the amount will be. The cap is on the contract exchange rate only. And I really like your charities!
713 caller: [appreciation] We are each special in our own ways. We each start as a child, and God and our parents look with love. We all love each other, and want to do good. It hurts when people who have a lot of money in their pockets look down on us and think we are idiots and won’t be able to handle this money. When you build a house, you have to start with a thick foundation and build each piece of wood on top. It’s hard to have the roof looking down at the foundation and think we cannot do good. For those who have the power – many elected by ‘we the people’ – don’t look down at us. When God brought the child out of the womb, the parents look down on the child and say “I love you” and the child says it back to them. Many are suffering because the top people don’t understand the feeling level we have. Have some love for this planet and let us have the opportunity to transform this planet – not with words but with actions. All of us want the actions to go forward and make this a better planet. All we want is that love and appreciation, so I would appreciate those in charge of this to give us the opportunity to have this money and make those changes. Let us walk as equals on this planet – so have a heart and do unto others as you would have them do to you. That is God’s law.
Tony: The best revenge is living well. They are looking at our sites and the chat and listening to the calls, they are projecting that everyone is like those few who only want the money. Those are the squeaky wheels that put that out on the boards. WE want them to know that WE know how to do the right thing – its purpose and who to share it with. The meetings over the last few months, what we have heard coming out of those meetings about us has changed some people’s minds and focus. They are now seeing that we do have some good things planned. Others are being told to get over it, because now we are seeing the correction. Don’t be mad or spiteful; keep your vision for the future and show them they are wrong.
Caller: I look at this as a miracle blessing, and believe everyone on this call is chosen for their compassionate heart. All the people who have spoken have a good heart, doing good for their families and to create peace on earth. There are so many suffering and we want to see people sort out their lives and to then help others help themselves.
210 caller: I have a question for you and DC. [My computer crashed and I missed a bit.] I’m 100% disabled vet in a wheelchair. The VA said I might lose my benefits.
DC: Thank you for your service. Frankly, I think this is a good time to hire a VA attorney to walk you through this process. I have a friend who lost both legs to an IED, and he is talking to a lot of advocacy groups. I would get some strong legal advice and advocacy groups before you do your exchange.
Tony: Now would be the time to do that. Guys, he just brought up a very good thing. Anyone who is receiving assistance, this could affect that if done the wrong way. Many of you are talking about helping wounded warriors, that adds to their value and that could affect their checks. Be careful how you do those things so that they can still benefit, such as building a house and letting them live there for a dollar a month. If you give them a house or money, they will have to record that and it might affect them.
512 caller: [Condolences and appreciation] It looks like we are coming close to this thing wrapping up in the next 24-48 hours. Some other gurus are also saying we are very close, but we are all worried that Maliki will raise his head and cause problems again. Are we pretty confident that M’s involvement is pretty well done? Will he leave Iraq alone and let them be blessed in the life to come?
DC: Maliki will always been an issue, because he was the head of the country and some people will still listen to him. There are folks watching his every move, and they want him to be dealt with. What does ‘dealt with’ actually mean? He will always have to be managed. His latest moves have not been supported – even his supporters didn’t back him. The tide is turning against him, though.
Caller: Once Abadi is sworn in, he is formally PM. Until then, isn’t Maliki still the PM?
DC: Abadi has a lot of power although he has not been sworn in, so most are asking A for advice and management, not Maliki. Many of the financial types are saying that we are past that point, and it’s good enough.
Caller: Several reports said that Abadi has been sworn in…
DC: Yes, it was announced in the Gazette, but there is a further swearing-in, so technically he is still being called the PM-designate. We understand it will take place before the next formal sitting on the 19th. He is actively negotiating terms with the Kurds, and his supporters say they will then clean up the paperwork. That should be done in the next day or two.
Caller: I’m from Austin TX, and my plan is to reach out to 100,000 elderly people who are struggling. I think I’ll be in a position to pay their electricity bills for the future, and then some can also help others, included wounded warriors and those with disabilities.
Tony: I like that because it helps them without affecting their assets in a way that gets in the way of their disability checks or other funds.
Pam wants us all to know that there is a thread in the forum called TNT Will Give Back, as a place where members can post how they will be paying it forward.
We are not on an actual countdown, but the rollout process is occurring. Adjustments were mad eon Monday and Tuesday. We believe that Iraq has fulfilled all their obligations, they have revalued their currency, and they are waiting on the rest of the world to go through. Everyone is very impressed with their maturity in the political realm, and it’s amazing how quickly they could do that.
We are highly expectant of the rollout. WE have been told to ramp up our preparations we believe this is coming out on a short timeframe. Thank you all for sharing your ways of paying it forward – those stories lighten the load for all of us.
Pam: We know that not everyone is on the forum, but hope you will find ways to share those plans. Please be very careful not to share you info on a public forum. There are scoundrels out there masquerading as caring people. Start behaving like people who have a lot to look after, okay?
Ray: They said it all. Continue to enjoy wonderful Wednesday!
Tony: We are in a window, everyone is prepared although there have been a few change sot the rollout. We know forces all around the world just want to do this and get it released. We hope all issues are resolved. If not, we have tried to keep the site going, but we do have bills due, so any help is appreciated. If we can carry on, we will. Hopeful it’s all over and it doesn’t matter… hopefully in another couple of hour.
To the PTB, we have no problem doing another call. We are here to help. Hopefully in the next few hours or the next day, I will be able to send out a tweet that everybody will like!