Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#
[I was not able to get on the call for the first five minutes.]
They said this would be announced by the 14th, it is now the 16th. Agreements are still being worked on.
There are a lot of people on chat who think it’s okay to call people stupid. These calls are free. If you are listening and then complaining about it, that makes you stupid in my book. I don’t want to retaliate, but I’m human like everyone else.
Maliki is going for a third term…
206 caller –
Tony: Everything is very good, very positive. It’s a great day!
Caller: I’ve been asking my friend in Iraq about the lower denominations; she hasn’t seen any of those yet, she is still using the US dollar. I have been checking on Facebook with other friends in Iraq; some stuff I can verify. Maliki is definitely running for the third term, and my friend told me that they are being told the currency will revalue after the elections, next month. I have some information that I want to give you… that may be for all of us. You have my number.
Tony: I got it this morning. Thanks, I appreciate that.
Someone is telling people he is on our intel team, and I want to clear that up, that they are not. They are passing information to this guy thinking he is connected to me.
Caller: We are good people in Texas, I want to tell you that upfront. Some people bash you, but I want to applaud you for the information you are gving you. I would have been one of those who are broke in two years if it were not for what you say on this call. I found out about this in 2010; I just bought it, and then started learning and I got on this call. I couldn’t be your wife, because of what you have to put up with . I want to thank you; keep up the good work.
Tony: Three of my intel people are from Texas, and I like Texas. I just have to give them a hard time. Pam, Ray, DC, and the whole team – we do the best we can do, given the information we get. WE are not the government, but we do get information and I have to make the decision about whether this information will affect the people on a national or global level. I get information and find out if others got the same thing and then I feel frree to say it. There is a lot that goes into this, including things they wish the public doesn’t know. I can say the public in terms of YOU, or bad guys listening to this call, or government agencies listening to this call. There are at least eleven agencies and many countries listening to this call. So I am attempting to say things that you don’t understand otherwise. I could tell you things going on right now, but I can’t.
I can tell you that there were meetings and decisions this morning, but I cannot tell you the details without affecting what’s going on. If we felt something bad, wrong or adversely affecting YOU was happening, then I would tell you, and you can have confidence in that.
661 caller: If you have dinar in hand and reserves, can you exchange cash at the bank at the international rate and pay off the reserves?
Tony: Yes, if you have cash dinars in hand, you can exchange one note, pay off your reserves, and then take all the rest to your appointment. There should be no problem with that so long as you haven’t yet signed the NDA that tells you not to use that money to pay for reserves.
The court overturned that Maliki can only run for two terms, and he really is running for his third time. It’s public, the date the court overturned the law. Also, Fisherman (whoever that is) tells people we are part of his intel team, but I have no idea who that is. Some intel people know him, and that is what we are being told. Someone came on and told me about this.
512 caller: My name is Tony and I’m from Texas! I’ve been listening for well over a year now, and really appreciate the intel you and your team provide. With everything that is going on, how does this happen that the dinar was announced on 1. December but the CBI has never changed the rate, the elite has cashed in, and we’re still sitting here with nothing. That seems like a conflict.
Tony: Do you believe that those things HAVE happened, or have NOT happened?
Caller: I believe they have happened, and then that statesman asked us to pull off the Twitter campaign and then we would have our time… and nothing happened. We keep hearing it has happened, that the IMF and US administration has held it up, CL and Jack Lew were supposed to announce it… I believe it has happened but it seems counterproductive. [more of the same]
Tony: The answer is that we are all frustrated because we have only part of the information and we want it to happen because we need it. They are still having meetings and discussions setting the final date for this to go, and we don’t know about that. Again, back in December, they probably didn’t plan on having the RV until April because… that was their plan. We were told that, we just didn’t want to believe it, yet here we are. April was always their plan; it just wasn’t our plan.
The things they are deciding and doing in the back rooms – we were never supposed to know about that. If we didn’t know, we wouldn’t be upset about them moving around money and funding projects. When we did find out, that forced them to make some decisions faster and to treat us more fairly. Our issue was that they weren’t going to be fair to us. They could pay the elite because those people wouldn’t run around like a chicken with their head cut off. That’s jus the reality. In the back room, they never expected us to know that or to say “this isn’t right” and all the rest.
Now we have an agreement that everyone will be treated fairly, they went back to the bargaining table and to their original timetable. This is not about us. This is going to affect the US dollar and the US economy forever. They are trying to make sure the right people stay in power in the right places. Just two days ago, the “Mini-IMF” organizations will be set up in 2015, without the US or our veto power, and using their own currency @ 100 billion. That will devalue our dollar.
There is a lot going on in the background that is more important than our receiving our 100 million dollars. We are going to be a Third World country if they don’t fix this situation. I don’t want to interfere with that. In December, I thought they were through with that, and they were just handing out money. Now they are saying “We will treat everyone fairly, so just let us get on with it,” and we say Okay to that.
Caller: On a site last night, they said that this will go any minute, with the USA or without them.
Tony: Yes, there is a still an agreement that this will happen with or without us, but we don’t know what that day or time is. We heard that back in January, but now everyone is saying “enough is enough”. It’s out there, and everybody knows it. They can negotiate, but they know the clock is ticking down to “with or without you”, whenever that time is.
Caller: The IMF has given the US to the end of the year to figure this out. Is this the end of their fiscal year, which is April, or the end of the calendar year 2014?
Tony: It makes more sense to me for it to the end of their fiscal year… but they may be mixing up oranges and apples.
Caller: Are they going to get off the pot, or are they going to wait until something forces their hand?
Tony: I wanted it to happen yesterday. I need the money like everyone else. I’m tired of doing these calls, too. I understand the frustration, but we need to look a the bigger picture. It is going to happen. If you have dinar in hand, hold onto it. There are constant announcements that their country will be the richest in the region. They’re not announcing that a year in advance. They are opening more banks and signing contracts. They wouldn’t be doing that a year in advance!
Caller: The longer Iraq waits, the more money they are losing.
Tony: The DFI funds have been released; they have their money, in their banks. Why would they do that if their currency wasn’t going to change? They have been accepted into the WTO. They are signing documents so that when they walk out of the back room, everything is completed. There is no argument in parliament or in the news. There is a reason why there aren’t any public arguments any longer.
Caller: If the Americans holding this up, is a Twitter campaign not worth considering to get the government off its haunches?
Tony: That is not what the Twitter campaign was about: others were being paid, we were not, and we were drawing that to their attention. We’re not going to do another campaign when they are being fair and they are making decisions not just for dinarians but for our country and the future of our economy. When they are looking at the dollar being devalued, we don’t want to be part of that. We don’t want to force bad decisions to be made. If the dollar devalues to 74%, that will affect the whole economy and we don’t want to have that.
256 caller: I appreciate the questions from the last caller; everyone is frustrated and we cannot allow the US to sit back, but we can’t do anything about it. I hate to see us in this position with the world; we are losing authority fast. My question is about the dong. Will there be a contract rate on the dong?
Tony: I believe there will be.
Caller: A friend bought some dong and he is concerned about the rate. One site showed a change in rate, but I think it was a typo on the website. Anyway, until it goes international, we are waiting on the dinars for anything to happen, right?
Tony: Yes, the dinar is the foundation of the public revaluation.
Caller: so they are in the back rooms working and the US are sitting on their tails. So if they get to the end of the fiscal year, and they go international, will we still have a contract rate?
Tony: I think we will have one. We will certainly have at least the international rate, but then those who got the high rates will have claw backs, so I don’t think we will go that far.
Caller: You said about people being stupid, on the beginning of the call – you’re right, they have the choice not to listen to the call. They call us rednecks here, but I’ve met many more stupid people than we have in Texas! If nothing has changed that you can cover, and I know these calls are costing your time and money, how about not having calls until something really changes? Just send us a blast…
Tony: After today you may get your wish, because if we can’t pay for the calls…
Caller: I wish I could send you some money myself, but I’m a disabled vet. They’re paying me for Agent Orange in Vietnam; I hope I can help you out next month.
Tony: Some people said for me not to do a call today, but I think it’s more important for people to know that things are NOT the same as on Monday. There have been some changes and developments. The closer we get, the less I am allowed to say. If something bad is happened, we can say that on our own, but as things continue to get better… we are closer today than we were on Monday because some things have been put in motion and agreements made to get this done. The only thing they haven’t done is to send me the 800 numbers and the package. I expected this call to be over with. If we have the money, we will go on with the calls, if we have to. I honestly thought this would be over yesterday or Monday. Things are being completed, we are on the 1” line, and I don’t know how much longer they can drag this out. I do know things are moving and people are in agreement. I know that things are being done that mean more to the US and other countries, too.
The power players all have their own agendas. They have to do things for their side, and people are only finding things out in the last hour. Alliances are changing back and forth, and they are making new agreements for oil, oil credits, and so on. But it’s close enough that they’re saying, “let’s do it!”
917 caller: If they know it’s not happening, why do they tell YOU it’s happening, and then you tell us? They are going into meetings, you said, so they know it’s not happening.
Tony: They have called in the exchangers and call centers at, say, 8am, and then at noon someone else comes in who wasn’t at the early meeting, and then they have to fix or discuss something. They do that, then they start it back up again, or they tell them to wait. That’s what happens. I think they should just go forward and deal with the glitches afterwards, rather than allowing 48 or 72 hours, but there are 200 countries involved. There’s always something.
Caller: Quick questions, yes or no. Did the RV already happen secretly worldwide?
Caller: Mtn Goat says no IMF reform means no RV…
Caller: Kaperoni says dong is not part of the GCR.
Tony: Wrong. We already know where the RV is.
Caller: David? Group.
Tony: I’m not listening to him.
Caller: Lower denominations in Iraq are out or not?
Tony: They are out, already down to the fields (coins), with five different rates in various provinces.
Caller: Where new higher notes printed?
Tony: Article yesterday says they don’t have to print new notes because the lower ones are being distributed.
Caller: Did Iran counterfeit the new notes?
Tony: I know they smuggled some in last year, but there is no need to counterfeit if you can get the real thing.
Caller: Jester says the RV won’t come in for three months.
Tony: I think he’s wrong.
Caller: Stryker says they are still using US dollars in Iraq.
Tony: I think he’s wrong. Now we know all those guys are going to come back and say Tony’s wrong. We will see.
520 caller: I read the Recaps for Monday; one guy requested access to the forum. Will that ever be open again? You gave it to Pam to call the guy.
Tony: Realistically, we haven’t opened it back up again because of all the negative people who cause trouble and disrupt it because they can’t deal with reality and have to blame someone when they don’t’ understand how the world works. The Mods have dealt with most of that: banned, restricted, etc. It’s just a lot of work right here at the end of this process.
Caller: With the GCR, we know that the US dollar will shrink. Will we see that just through higher prices, or will it affect your mortgage payment…?
Tony: It will be in higher prices. The mortgage amount won’t change; the interest rates probably will change. Everyday expenses will definitely change, because once transportation costs change, that has a ripple effect on everything. Two weeks ago we got the call from Canada that the US dollar was devalued 2%. We haven’t seen the effects yet, but it was announced everywhere apart from here. It will take some time, after the RV+GCR, maybe six months. It won’t affect us as much because we’ll be rich. Our deficit will go down and there will be more jobs created, and more funding for social programs, so there is some upside.
717 caller: I’m thrilled and surprised to be on the call. Thanks for all you do, you and the Mods! We’d be in serious trouble if it weren’t for you. I have a problem with getting through the system you have on the website, for donations.
Tony: If you hit the donate button, make sure you go to ‘friends and family’, not ‘goods and services’. If you put it in wrong, you get it refunded. I cannot get back to every person who makes a donation, but PayPal sends you a receipt. I do thank everybody for it, there is no way I can spend my day sending thanks rather than gathering information. I know some people don’t like PayPal, but we are so close to the end… People have sent in some great suggestions, but I’ve been avoiding those because I don’t want to set up something new. This could be our last day! I do have a list of everyone who has made donations, and I do have a way to contact you. It’s 100-200 people who are carrying 20,000 in the forum and however many more on these calls.
Caller: Do you need a PayPal account to donate?
Tony: I don’t think so; I think you can do it through your credit card somehow.
661 caller: Do you think there will be set rates between Kuwait and Saudi Arabia?
Tony: Yes, I think so.
Caller: Do you think the US system will collapse, and when?
Tony: In order for the GCR to take place, the top five countries will have to devalue – in order for the bottom five to come up. We are even, all debts are paid, let’s start over again with our money valued in a different way. The top countries will gradually come back up. That is what a revaluation is all about. We know that it will float, and it will happen again in 200 years. We are just here for the first one ever to happen in our lifetimes. The RV and GCR are going to happen, and we will see another one in six months, and then in six months, each one probably smaller, like a ripple effect. Then they will have the first mini-IMF set up within a year, and then that will change the whole scenario again. They will not have to rely on the dollar or the euro again, because they will have the mini-IMFs and we’ll have to see which is strongest.
Caller: So the RV will happen first, and the GCR after that, correct?
Tony: The GCR cannot occur without the RV, because the foundation for the GCR is the Iraqi dinar.
Caller: That’s where it is so hard to understand; if it’s happened, why hasn’t it happened for us?
Tony: You say it hasn’t for ‘us dinarians’. When it happens for us, it will affect the markets, forex, and economies around the world. The rates, interest rates, and prices will change around the world! It’s not just us. The last step is the biggest step in terms of impact on the people.
Caller: We will be doing good things for the economy, too, positive things! I guess they are not looking at that aspect.
Tony: They do appreciate that, but it’s a drop in the bucket compared to the global scale of this change, including social programs. What we personally are going to do is a drop in the bucket. I want it today, just like you do. I am mad, but I cannot be mad enough to holler and scream, as long as we are being treated fairly. I can only affect so many people, but when this is over, their humanitarian projects will affect people globally.
Caller: Do you think that the 3-D technologies will affect the value of the dollar?
Tony: I think it will affect the way we do things. The internet effected change, and we will never go back; it changed the way we live forever. That 3-D printing will also change the way we live forever. That printing will let you do it with glass, metal, wood, and they will become as common as the printer on your desk, so people can do that on their own… so that will change the way we live, and it will only get better. President Obama mentioned it in the State of the Union Address, before we got our money to buy up all the 3-D printing companies! There are even 3-D guns that can shoot 100 bullets before dissolving! If you are looking for an investment, that is a great industry. Also, the medical industry is taking off as a result because they can ‘print’ body parts – that’s how important it will be.
Caller: In your heart of hearts, is April the month?
Tony: In my heart of hearts, April is the absolute last month.
954 caller: I want to give 25k dinar notes to friends; do I have to give them gift letters with that?
Tony: I don’t know if that is required with a single 25K note. I just think it’s better to be safe than sorry. At least then they can verify the paper trail. Keep it simple.
Caller: I cannot find the initial receipt from nine years ago. Is this going to be a problem for me?
Tony: If you have a receipt for all the rest and have an honest face, you’ll probably be okay.
Caller: Do you have any idea of a back wall date?
Tony: I don’t. That is a question for Pam…
Caller: You’re the only one I go for, so if you don’t do the call, please send a blast or a tweet.
Tony: I will. I enjoy talking to you because it’s personal and we hear the emotions. The agencies are also getting that; it lets them know what’s going on out in the public. It lets them know people are frustrated, angry, or excited.
Caller: I’m sure it tells them if we are going to be responsible or go off the deep end!
Tony: There was a guy earlier asking what I thought about the other dinar gurus, and I’ve just heard it was SPGuru. I’m just telling you what I hear, and what I know. In the end, when it is announced, you will know who was telling the truth. I am okay with that.
Oh! No, that guy was ASKING about PIF/SPGuru. Sorry. I don’t know what his voice sounds like, so we’ll skip that part. I apologize.
Caller: Early you talked about the meetings and such and said we have to put our confidence in that. TNT dinar called it before Thanksgiving, then we had the Twitter campaign and got someone’s attention. Now we have been hearing it’s done and it still hasn’t been pushed across. Somebody, somewhere is lying, because things that have been said have not happened. What do we put our trust in then? [more of the same]
Tony: I don’t know what didn’t’ happen. Agreements are in place, money has been moved, bonds have been sold… a lot of things have happened. We haven’t seen the RV yet, because even though there are all those meetings and decisions on the first floor, and then in the last ten minutes, someone at the top of the food chain says No. When it comes to that last minute, the guys standing in front of the system, ready to do it, and the phone rings and tells them not to do it. That guy didn’t lie; he was doing it until something changed. Those chess masters are moving their pawns; we are jut following it. Just because it says “checkmate” and then it doesn’t execute because something happens in Ukraine or the oil world… There are things you aren’t aware of that cause change, and all we can do is go with the change.
Caller: I’m voicing the frustration here. [more of same]
Tony: These are the calls, this is the information hat comes out and this is what we are looking for. If I can explain it, great. If I cannot, then it’s because we are not supposed to know what those reasons are. What other option is there.
Caller: [yet more ranting which I refuse to transcribe]
Tony: What’s the option here? We can keep you informed about the changes and news or not. You can listen, or you can wait until you get the final call. We can gather as much information as we can, so that we can be prepared as much as possible. If they are no doing things that affect us, though, we only have those two options. You want to fight someone you can’t see? If we know or have proof that something adverse is happening, that would be different. Right now, they are saying that we will be treated fairly, and I will trust that until I have proof otherwise. If you want to be in the moment, this is the place to be. I know you are frustrated, and others feel the same way. I don’t control this. If they let me in the boardroom, there would be an RV in 30 minutes, but they don’t let me do that.
This is about being prepared. Twitter is not going anywhere. We have 240K people on Twitter, and we can bring in ten each. Why would we want to burn the house down when they say we will be treated fairly?
Caller: Just as the banking world pulls wool over people’s eyes, I’m afraid of being a fool again…
Tony: You trusted the TNT call that if we find out something we will tell you. We trust in that same thing, that the people who told us in the beginning, the bankers and people in the meetings – they told us that we had been hoodwinked. I had to trust that if they did the right thing the first time, they will do the right thing now. If people knew what we know today, they would be in the streets right now, just like with Jekyll Island, because you had this opportunity and they did not.
Caller: We have to trust in your trust in them. I get that.
Tony: And I have to trust in my intel people and their sources. They are not letting me in the room or handing me the documents. There is no other option. Otherwise, you can go to the other sites and see/believe what they are saying. I’m sure they are listening to this call. All of DC, at the water fountains and in the hallways, they are talking and asking about ‘this guy TNT Tony’. They are aware that we represent the people, and they are happy we are still here to day. They are supporting us, and we are in good hands. Until I hear something different, I can’t say anything else.
Caller: Who’s got the go button? Where does the buck stop?
Tony: There are three buttons, three options to make this go. Any one can do that. There is an agreement in place that any can do this at certain points, option 1, 2 or 3. At this point, it’s just going to happen, I can tell you that much. There is someone lobbying for this NOT to get done, and they have their reasons; others are saying “let’s just do this and deal with that later”. Is this doing something wrong to us? No. So why jump up and down when this could affect our economy and the global economy. The only difference between you and me is that I can see the chess pieces being moved.
Caller: Thanks for indulging me in my frustration. Thanks for all you do.
301 caller: I am in DC, and I wish I could find out what is going on! I’m as blessed as I can be without having wings! It’s not your doing that we are going through this. My questions have been answered apart from one: you implied there is a back wall by the end of this month.
Tony: In my opinion, this should be done by the 30th of April.
Caller: Can it be done before that?
Tony: The reality is, we don’t know. I know they are preparing for it to be done, and acting as if it has been done. It’s just the public rollout we are looking at now. I do think it will be done by the 30th because there are things in Iraq that will not wait. They have already passed their deadlines, and the pressure is now on.
Caller: Somehow Iraq seems to be secondary, not primary. The IMF seems to hold the reins and they are funded by the US, and the US dollar has be devalued if this happens, so doesn’t that imply the US control when and if this happens?
Tony: The leader of the World Bank and the IMF were both appointed by the President. Everything that has to do with the RV is based on US agreements. Regardless of what is said, when it comes down to it, the buck probably stops at Pennsylvania Avenue. This is one thing we know: it’s not about the President’s power or America’s power. Yes, they are trying to dethrone us like never before. But we know he is not doing it for personal power, or out of greed, because the money doesn’t go into his account. The money is already sitting in the politician’s bank accounts, so the only reason left is to secure your future.
Caller: If they got theirs, why is it we haven’t got ours; why is there one type of American who can get paid, while others go to Iraq and die or get wounded yet they are not being paid. We all pledge allegiance in the same way!
Tony: That’s why we went to Twitter. They are saying we will be treated equally, but this is the last step, and that is what we are waiting on now. This is where we are until it happens. We could cause all kinds of noise, but at what cost to our country, our economy and the global economy? We can still take action if we don’t get treated fairly in the end. We cannot force them to announce the RV, we can only wait for them to announce the RV.
They are already selfish. Do we be selfish and say “I don’t care what it costs every other American out there so long as I get my money!”? We don’t want to do it the wrong way just because they did it the wrong way. When the elite got paid in December, they planned to give us crumbs, and we campaigned to change that. Now they are doing things that concern the big picture, and that is not about us. IF, when money is being handed out, if we are not being threated fairly, THEN we will have something so say. We are just giving out information and passing it on so that this can go as smoothly as possible and get on with our lives and investments. If this is over in 30 minutes, it won’t be soon enough for me.
Caller: “Just show me the money!” You saw the movie…
312 caller: Is DC around?
Tony: He’s around, he’s just ducking this call!
Caller: I was just hoping he is in those meetings on our behalf.
Tony: We have some very, very good sources, and we are aware of every meeting taking place in Washington, NY, and all the other places.
Caller: So there should be good intel coming out of those meetings.
Tony: There was a meeting at 8am this morning.
Caller: Let’s say the IMF, etc., have decided to move on without the US. In your mind and understanding, if they do that will it have a negative effect on US dinarians? Or will it gone on as we already expect?
Tony: As soon as the US finds out that it has moved forward, we could jump in at the end, OR we could still exchange at the international rates. We would not be the only ones left out…
Caller: Instead of being 204 countries…
Tony: They are not going to take the US share because they are not going to go back and recalculate all that. If all the other countries agree, we will just do it. That’s why we have been talking our allies and moving those chess pieces.
Caller: I know there is a lot going on, and I told him there might be a snag. My partner said there was an article saying that Putin would not be accepting dollars for their oil deals any longer; they would only accept rubles or dollars. I hope this doesn’t drag out much longer; I hope it happens, it happens right, and everyone is taken care of.
Tony: Putin is trying to affect the US economy just as we are trying to affect his!
I hope this will happen by Good Friday, but no time like the present!
We need to see the big picture. This is not a lottery, or a social program where the government owes us a check on the first of every month. That is not what we are going through. This is more like an investment, except we didn’t go through a securities firm. There are no laws! There are no rules! You can do it today. You can sell it right back for whatever today’s rate is. Everything is live and it is going through, but we are expecting something else.
There is nothing written in stone; Iraq doesn’t have to follow US laws or what we believe. They do what they want to do, and that works for them. We have to know that we have a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity here, and we have to make the right decisions. If we didn’t get treated fairly, then you have a right to be upset. We’ll see how that works out.
Not everyone will get the same high rate; that is not realistic. But all in all, we are in a good position. Everything we’re hearing says today, tomorrow, by the end of this month. Without being specific, I am hearing good stuff.
I was hoping we would shut this down before the next bill comes in, but that didn’t happen, so we could do with donations – hopefully more than the usual 200 people. I am feeling good, I’m hearing good stuff, and I’m ready to go right now!
Pam: I was talking to DC, and no that person was not on our intel team. Guys, we know it has taken a long time, but it’s definitely worth the rate. I’m in it until it’s over!
Ray: Everyone have a great day!
Tony: Thanks, everybody, especially the Mods. I would love to make another call this afternoon – that would make my day! Everyone enjoy the rest of your day!