Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#
Tony: Good morning, TNT. Today is may 5th, cinco de mayo, celebrations all around the world. I do have dc here, right DC?
DC: yes, sir, how are you’ll doing?
T: we contribute all the delays to you. (DC – thanks buddy). Going thru some things before we starte. Some of you keep assuming you’re keeping the same info. Some knuckleheads out there I don’t want you to listen to. TNT has been selected as one of three groups to explain things, do calls for you, so far… only 3, me and DC are two of them, so only three groups. We have inside info about what to do afterward. We’ve been giving you some of that along the way. We know part of the process we’re not telling you cuz it may change, we still have questions of our own. We don’t have the critical part. We tried to make phone calls this morning, tyrying to make the connections. We’re trying to help everybody inovled in the process. We do know things going on behind closed doors – I feel good about it. it hasn’t happened, the rv hasn’t announced, but that doesn’t mean we’re not steps away. There are decisions being made even right now, doing that.
You guys, listening not listening, etc, it’s hard for us making decisions. I got call last nite and DC got calls to put ungodly amount pressure and to threaten a bunch of peole to do some things that we all know we’re capable of doing. I’m not in threatening mode today – everything we’re hearing they’re trying to do the right things.
We’ll do that if we feel they’re doing the wrong thing – excluding us from the process, etc, -- I want our govt to do what they’re doing as long as it’s for the people and not lining their pockets. I’m hearing very indepth things, things I never thought I hear or be involved in. the average peole will freak out if they hear it.
There are some issues, clearly some issues, and I said mountain goat gave you some good info because it was. There were some things we weren’t talking about, details, but I have both sides of that argument too. We’re only presented with one side. There’s another side to that. I have to look at that and do the best thing for all of us – not one or two who wants it to happen at 8AM in the morning. I can’t start a firestorm just cuz peole are mad cuz it hasn’t happened yet. They’re still not paying ppl out. They’re not saying we’re only getting $3. We’re getting what we want.
This is something, don’t care how idiotic you are, after the fact if things happen or not, we’re still here. Why would you want to pressure them when they’re trying to get things done. There are issues, will see if dc will discuss it cuz he got more body armor. It makes sense, the issues, to be honest… the problem was…and I’ll accept it: I gave you guys too much info, not on the rate, but on the process – the future of the US econcomy, etc. I gave you too much info so they’re trying to fix it. if I look it on their end, it makes sense. I know what I know if i know if I let you know ….
They’re having to make adjustment today, yesterday, day before because of the info we already have. Most of you would understand what I just said, ppl who are looking for the future.
Are we still in a superfantastic place? As far as I’m concern – yes, just A decision that needs to be made. They’ve been meeting about it yesterday, today, trying to … new idea. I could tell you about it but they would scrap that and start over. I can tell you what I think it is or I can tell you my plan for the future, an hour or two after the rv happens. I’ve done it over the years, but they can’t stand 200K ppl doing it or 4 million ppl doing it. we’ve known that all the time. If I told you exactly what the plan was, they’ll change it. shortening the day, shortening the amount, delay … have to react cuz too many ppl have that plan so we all know that, should know that. there are some knuckleheads on our twitter, on our forum, who don’t understand how global economy works…. That’s not how real life work, esp at that level.
Let dc go east to west.
dc- good afternoon. Would like to go east to west. Will explain why we’ll give similar but not exactly the same.
The past couple of days, frankly things look immensely close, don’t want to be the guy, don’t want to take the risk giving info out and ppl use that as an excuse. Is it a legitimate excuse, I think no. but they have use it in the past. The past couple of times we’ve done calls, everybody was geared up, ready to go – we’ll not be the ones to mess up, somebody else does… we don’t want to be the ones to do that. today is no different – things extremely close, geared up, we don’t want to mess up. We’re not stupid – we know there are guys out there working against it, there are international laws pushing those things around… it’s pretty much black and white… we’re at the point where we’re ….
My point is that everybody is anticipatory of this thing going on very soon. Have we been here before? – yes. But we have to get here to go forward. In the past, if there has been… we’ve gooten close to the finish line and someone takes a couple of steps back. On Friday, after the call, someone took a coupole of steps back.
I put that out there to pay attention more to the subtleties of what’s going on.
T: want to break in. they’re frustreated. Guys, you’re frustrated, we’re frustrated, I want to say the banks are frustrated. They’re tired of hearing it just like you’re tired of hearing it. they’re tired of getting their ppl prepped up, getting lunch, doing it. they have actually asked us to help … should I say that? … (dc- yean, don’t name specific ones ) .. have asked us to put pressure on the decision makers.
I was going to say: come one, everybody, let’s get this done. We’re close. I understand we’re close. I know it’s trying to be done – let’s just get it done. Everybody is ready, we’re in position, everybody knows that there are certain banks that have moved to the other side –“we’re with them, enough with this bs”. The banks are in, exchangers are in, so and so. Today they’re not, they said they’re tired of playing the game. “Just do what you said you’ll do and we’ll be there.”
dc- east to west. In Iraq, the elections are still being counted, a couple of days out of final count. The folks they believe they’ll be in power feel good about it, negotiating who gets what decisison. It’s going well, everybody is acting with leveled head, doing right kind of agreement and deal as should be with democracy. Very much sign of maturity on their part. They won’t announce till final elections. Still a little more horsetrading going on. Should be concluding. CBI is ready. You should see article demanding budget to be released. Two main political blocks who are key decision makers… for RI continuing, want to get this done yesterday – ver5y very to get those done. The US, IMF, UST on lockdown – they’re ready to do some things, reconfiguring some stuff that happened on Friday. Might have changed some plans. We won’t know till the final thing. Everything looks extremely positive for us. We’re in the same position, same as Friday when everything is extremely ready to go at any minute, any time – warning, checklist, all ready.
In terms of….
First question everybody is going to ask – great guys, tony and dc, we’ve been here from time to time, wh7 should this time be different? Frankly, the RI was declared 9 days ago, that’s definitely weighing on everybody. Hard to ignore something you’ve agreed to accept so everybody has accepted it. they’re pushing it.
Also, because why the RI mattered, a lot of people on the side … on the side of the law, their attorneys, advisors are saying there’s nothing else to push.
The opponents of it, those who are having issues, are now backing off and also being watched very closely. Some have been told bluntly to their face, “we’re watching you, will be recorded and use in any form or fashion” the others are not even being told.
Why is that important – it straighten everybody up and a lot of the shenanigans will be straighten up a bit.
T--- what you’re saying is, up until this point, they’ve been ducking and dodging the law, and they have been informed from Friday on, that we are following the law. That’s the big difference to what have been happening. Everybody has been put on notice, “from this point on we’re following the law”.
DC--- ..they’re running a tight ship, being extremely disciplined.
T--- we’ve been told that’s there’s an RI but nobody believed it. they’ve already done it, no intention of rescinding it, none of the other countries will agree – nothing to do but act on it. trying ppl to understand with some subtle things. Because we have to react to something that wasn’t in the formula, then we have to change the formula to something new, or the plan. That is the argument, the issue right now – how, when, and where to do that with the best possible solution to all, not just us. Actually doesn’t affect us at all but affect the big picture.
dc--- agreed. Nailed it.
t- want to make sure everybody understand what I’m saying, what’s really going on. Let me get back to the mountain goat…. Tony said he didn’t…. “he’s going public”… some ppl called me last week, said that they’ll be on Hannity and some other show, 6 oclock news… I hope it won’t be an issue by Friday. Again, I don’t mind, those are thing things I do looking out for you, looking out for dinarians. Hopefully they know what they’re talking about when they do that, know exactly what’s at the table, if they don’t they’re causing a whole lot more trouble than you think. I’m not telling anybody what to do.
We can’t control the exact moment, date and time, we can influence it… either way, I want everybody to know we’re in a great place. They do have a decision to make and hope they’ll make that decision today – do the right thing. Initially it didn’t make sense, the way step 1, 2, 3 – I was saying, “man, if you do that, all of us will leave Bill Gates in the dust.” So I understand. It’s nothing against us. Nothing against congressman, senators taking more money. Not hearing anybody paying their uncle, friend, cousins.
DC--- I don’t know of anybody since…. Since the test.
t---- we’re in a great place. Don’t know anything about mountain goat going public Friday. Are you confident in who mountain goat is?
dc—pretty certain, yes. I know what it is, yes.
T – LOL what it is.
dc—not giving gender.
t- some of them is definitely right.
dc- no no no, very good.
t- I’m not saying that, not trying to argue with him/her. Just trying to tell you guys that I think I’m doing the right thing, know when we should or shouldn’t. I’m not compromising our position at all. I know there are some other issues not about us –global events that are not completely about us. Actually, this part could be skewed that way. Not about rate, when we get paid, things afterward, the entire event, how things getting manipulated. I don’t want to do that.
352 caller ----- I got an idea for you
t- -- uh oh.
C – if obama every lose J Carney, I think you should step in his position. You’re great for this.
t--- how much does that position get paid? LOL
dc – oh man.
c- the only thing that scared me is that you say this is a chess game…. Is there anyone else slicker than we are?
t--- maliki is proving to be a very good palyer. His moves that he made is what’s forcing the board right now, forcing them to change the whole strategy.
c- you said “put the pressure on them” just wondering if it’s in the US or elsewhere.
t- talking about the US.
c--- don’t want to ask any further
t--- got to say this, give credit where credit is due. Some ppl are looking for their own positions, some ppl are looking for the future – global events, the future. About china, if you guys see their plan and discuss it… I was in downtown, smoking and talking about it, going through the process. China is looking at 50 years minimum, and then they have a solid 100 years program. Others are “today, right now, I want to be king of the world.” Others are looking at their position, country, how “I’m going to be affected.” The global…. God will look out for fools and idiots. We say “hey, they’re looking about for ppl who don’t have the common sense to look out for themselves.” When I look on the board, I said, you guys don’t care about the rest of society, ppl who are not dinarians, the entire global reset – just thinking about your banking acct and not beyond that.
c- there’s another point that u made the other day – cnn and bbc made some reference to this. There hasn’t been a peep on our side about the process. Why is it not discuss? Is it something for us to be afraid of?
t--- our news is censored more than any other countries in the world. They did leak it out and they did it at 2:30 in the morning, they made 5 times already to CYA. They did a little bit out. Right now today they have more ppl more than they want to be involved. They didn’t want to shut it down cuz they would have to shut down everybody. They don’t want 10 million ppl, etc. that’s why not in the news. Right now what they have to do and common sense would tell you they would do it – they’re figuring out how to cut you out of it. they got their jobs and we got our jobs – they’re trying to cut you out, I’m trying to keep us in. it’s a chess game. There are 5 million ppl in the dinar, and if it turns into 10 million or the dong, or the gcr they want to have it in December or next year….
Especially if the see the idiots on the site… they’re saying we’re definitely keeping these idiots out. They’re the ones who are affecting it. while we’re not the directd issue, it’s a global event, are we in consideration of how things to be change? Yes.
dc- will we matter? When we do, when we don’t, we’re not in much consideration. They don’t want ppl to double and triple dipping, making gobs and gobs of money. They don’t want us to cause a stir or crank up twitter again. Some are saying to keep off twitter, some saying to burn this thing down. It’s a constantly moving deal, and frankly, our calls will change base on the hour when they’re doing. if we’re doing this on Saturday morning, it would be completely different than now when they’re trying to get it done.
c--- sounds like we got enough work on the board to keep this thing going forever.
dc---- chess more of an individual player, than gao… ??? much more of a group force.
t--- it is really at the end. Something has to come to light of thing that has to be done.
c- pray for you.
t--- need it, thank you.
903 caller --- we are the ppl
t—we are the people, yes we are, now and afterward.
c- want to say it again: we are the people. And ther’s a lot of ppl who don’t get in these calls because they have to work. When I hear some of them say “why hasn’t it happened” and there’s so many people that are hurting, not just financially but physically.
t--- okay, I understand that we are. We actually do need it ourselves – people who have been depending on it, counting on it. I understand a group of ppl who are saying we deserve it because of what we’ve gone through, they’re fighting for us. I can’t make the call…they’re trying to make the roll out. I agree with their position, if I was in charge, that’s what’ I would do. As a business owner, that’s what I would do. If someone who is concerned about country, entire economy, that’s what I would do. Would make the decision and not second-guessing. As long as they’re doing that, not trying to make sure that we don’t get it and their buddy get it… then we have to look at it.
the good thing is we’re down to the last minute. The decisions being made over the weekend and today… it’s about the future, not about the RI. Steps 2 and 3 still have to be done and how to do it. most ppl don’t understand that it’s going to cause an issue about how it’s going to be done. I’m not supposed to say it, unless DC wants to do it.
dc---nope. I don’t want to do it.
t—we’re in a good position.
C- you gave a piece when you answer the question.
dc---not going to. Not going to be the idiot who caused it and they said to change the game cuz they know how to game the system. It’s best for me to hold back. Right now the right move is to hold our tongue.
c- y’all said there was a glitch system. Was that in the banking?
dc--- I didn’t say it was a glitch in the system. Technically, it’s working very well. It was a sychronization issue a while ago, and that has been fixed.
t—we’re waiting for the final decision, activating time, ready to go. Other than that, everything is done…. Well, not everything is done. The final, this is it, let’s go.
t- okay, dc, what were you going to say?
dc--- got to get off for 15 minutes for a call. Two, we’re not threatening anyone. We’re being supportive of that and want to make darn sure that we are very hopeful.
818 caller ------ you keep telling us to go out and do our own research, a lot of us do. Recently you talked about bbc report, from looking at the forum, everybody tried to find it, can’t find it. bbc, was it radio, tv, eastern time, pacific time – so mamy different bbc programs. Can you give us more info, have pam posted it so it can lead us to the story.
t--- let’s ask for some help on the forum. Several ppl called me that they saw it at 2:30am every time, msnbc, bbc….
c—this is the old bbc or recent ones?
t--- this is the recent ones. I’m asking ppl who have sent me that, who have called me and told me you saw with your own yes, can you go on the board and post dates and times. I do know it was at 2:30, I do know they planned to do it, 5 blurps. They were doing it … either 2 days before or after we got it, the gold standard. Just a hint for you guys, you might hear it sometimes today (the gold standard) or you might not. Things might be hidden to the public, but it is happening.
Again, I want you guys to know, because they put things out like that, like before when the UN put out exactly what was required of Iraq for their currency to be recognized. I saw it with my own eyes but we couldn’t find it. they might have removed it from the internet. Even dc couldn’t find it right afterward.
c--- you talk about one bank might have plan… can you talk about the plan that all the banks that are going do with the reserve?
t--- “the story was not put out in public, not on the web. On record but not made public.” So maybe that’s why you guys couldn’t find it. I do know they have a plan, variations of the plan, when I get the package I will know. All the banks will. And if they don’t, go to another one that does.
c--- the conundrum of one visit or two visits.
t--- right now with my understanding, with the reserve plan, you’ll get two visits if you have reserves.
c--- from the last call, whether it was you or dc, who said there is a end date in time. Can you tell us today if that’s within 10 days, a week…or is there a backdate you can give us on this end date and time?
t--- we had end dates before, we had windows before, we had “we can’t go past this date” before, and it all went past that. our understanding, as of this weekend, they’re following the law from this point and anybody that is not will be dealing with the law from this point. Should be the last date before we should see something. Should be because I’m not the one controlling. So yeah, there is a date, they all know what it is that’s why they’re pushing trying to get it out. I told you guys Friday the clock is ticking – not only the law is out there and they’re making sure everybody knows it. the force is at work, clearly, I’m just saying “let’s just get it done and let’s go on with our life.” I’m not going to tell you the date. We’re at a good place, good time, they have a plan and it’s being done.
c—thank you, tony.
t--- have a great day. Hopefully you guys do understand that again I tell everybody everything all the time. If we have any issue or problem, I’ll tell you, we need to look at the big issue. It’s a global issue. The formula has changed and they have to make adjustments because no one expects an RI. So it has caused some changes.
731 caller ---- appreciation. I know the guy, who told his sad story…let me tell you mine. I lived in a rich
[sorry…had to take a phone call at this point]
t---- right now, we have 5-6 million ppl involved in something that only 50K ppl –congressmen, senators, their family, good old boys – went to 5 million. In our country alone, we can have 20K new billionaires in our country if we do that, with the money that’s here. Most ppl who are in it right now, most have 100K who will make a million dollars….
C --- I thought that was what the nda was for, to restrict ppl.
T --- they can’t restrict everybody. They can’t let 5 million ppl to become millionaires, what would that do for the rest of the country and the world. … our citizens are the only ones able to do it, what kind of situation would that create? Everything has to be done right for the numbers to work, for the economy to work.
c—we originally thought it was supposed to happen back in December. It sounds like tony you are on the dinarians side anymore.
t--- I am on the dinarians side, to make sure we get the rate. They didn’t expect the RI, it changes the game, changes the formula. I’m telling you stuff I shouldn’t be telling you and you’re not hearing me. There are other issues than just us.
c—it’s hard to believe what you’re saying right now that you’re on our side.
t--- for everybody else, I could understand that. I want to make sure we get what we’re promised, I alos understand the global picture here. We’re in a great position, we’re ready to go, as far as we’re concerned as far as procedures. The rates are locked in and there are other things that are being considered that doesn’t have anything to do with us. I do understand the numbers, politics, etc.
303 caller ----- this law, something has to happen within a 10 day period – is this an international law, set up by the IMF that the US has to followed?
t--- I don’t know where it is, hasn’t seen it. I understand that it’s something it’s been looked at, paying attention to. Whoever put it out there, there’s a mutual understanding that it’s there.
If it’s dealing with international currency, then it would be an international law.
c—they’re bound to it…adhere to it then. I also…take you to task a little bit. As dinarians we do understand the global picture here, a lot more than you give us credit for. I’m on a number of different calls and groups. We do understand the financial situation, etc… we understand what this is going to do, we understand the benefits that the world is going to reap, not just us personaly, the world in general. It is kind of hard to concern yourself with everything when personally you’re trying to put food on the table, shoes on the kid’s feet. I heard that…??? Dubai… Finally, they can get off the dirt floor and get electricity. We read as much as we can. Yes, there are yahoos out there, but most of us understand what’s going on. Our govts on both sides have mucked this up. That’s where the frustration is
t--- I agree with you, the majority of the dinarians are not complaining, just the idiots on the board. Don’t want them to influcen the majority. We ourselves are in a great position. I know that cuz I know what I know.
c—as long as they don’t move the cheese again.
t--- I know who is backing us up in DC, other locations, and the rates, timeframe, format that’s coming out, and I’m saying we’re winning as dinarians. We don’t know the exact time and date, that’s what messing us up. But I know what’s holding us up. It is moving, it is fluid, ppl are coming down to final decisions. Don’t want to put it on the board cuz it’s going to affect it.
it was clear to let you know that some ppl have asked us to burn the house down, from ppl we didn’t expect from
c—what was your call about on Thursday morning, you said the same thing.
t--- the confusion lies in …after that we got a call and was told what’s going on. “this is the piece you’re missing.” “okay, where we’re at?” “you’re right here, this is the drop dead date.”
We were within that date, said it earlier, but not going to tell you that…countdown has begun.
c—you told us we were on the half inch line weeks ago…
dc—but we got knock back.
t---- you guys are looking for final decisions. We can’t tell you that. right now we’re waiting. I told you a couple of times that the RI changed everything we’re doing.
c--- find it hard to believe that didn’t factor that in, that maliki is sneaky.
t---agree with you. He did, and they didn’t factor it in.
c—do you see them pulling any more punches, do you see it coming to a head, being done. Not asking for a date, just trying to get a hold on what we were looking at –this month, next month, this week, next week.
t—answered you that question 3 different times already.
c- not asking us to give us the date and time. All we want to know is that there is a finality to this process.
t--- I hear you, said the countdown is here. There’s a date and time. I’m not in the board room, I can’t demand they change their mind. I can tell you where it’s at, that’s what I told you.
c--- when you talk to your ppl, informants…. Can’t you explain to them what kept everybody so riled is that they kept changing their mind, moving the cheese, kicking the ball around. If they have your ear, we’re not stupid, you’re not stupid….
t—they understand your level of frustration. They understasnd what you’re going through, getting the information you’re getting. We’re only one part that they’re concerned about. They’re still concerned about things afterward, they’re still concerned about the economy, etc. it’s not about us.
c—if they keep creating scenarios, if they don’t finish it sometime -- you’ll never be able to fix the economy, global situation. You just have to let it go, let’s do it.
t—that’s right, I love for them to do it. what I’m hearing is that we stop giving you the info, just telling you it’s going to happen in June sometimes.
c— no… if we go by their past record, they’re not going by what they say. t--- they’re not telling you when it’s going ot happen. We’re telling you what we’re hearing. They don’t want you to even know. “we’re considering it over there”. I can see both sides cuz I’m getting all the information. Again, if they’re doing something to hurt us, against us, etc., I’ll be the first one to say something. Or the ppl in dc say something that “hey, they’re screwing you guys over.”
We’re in a great position, we are ready go go when they are ready to go. Cannot tell you they will go into meeting and two more countries won’t say….
Right now today we’re actually close to getting the 800#.
c—you believe that.
t--- I just said it.
c--- you said it but do you believe it?
t--- why would I say it?
404 caller ----- there was a legal declaration of an RI that occurred on the 26th. Is that correct?
c--- the time period in which that has to be showing to the world under international agreement once this has been declared. Now they seem to be saying what to do about an RI…. No one is going to rescind what’s going to happen. Internationally, it’s going to happen quickly. The other thing must materialized…they’ve gone past bending the law… is that the current state of affairs?
dc--- I think you’v summed it up nicely.
t--- it doesn’t have anything to do with us right?
c--- no, but the impact will affect us.
t--- right now, they’re not trying to hurt us in anyway.
c--- the bottomline, one has to occur.
t--- that’s what we’re hearing.
c---- that answers the question.
919 caller ---- last Wednesday, you mentioned, if it did not happen, it’s not good, this is after the RI… what changed?
t--- it has changed.
dc---- give me 30 seconds.
t---- it has changed until they come on…the elections results came out different than what we were looking at. The cooperation among groups have been different than what most ppl expected.
dc---- here’s what has changed. One, maliki wanted to be the guy declared the RI, in case he ddin’t get elected, etc. it was a very good move by him. He even told us he was going to do it and he did. What it did with the elections – if he didn’t declare it before the legal time, then what very much was looking like going toward till the last minute, it was going to the election period, interim govt, and interim govt not going to make big decisions, going to be a big giant fight. It looked like it was leading up to it, could be that way. Right now they’re handling themselves. They’re doing it right now, on timeline. Part of it cuz of international pressure…. And their maturity of the country.
If maliki, and the 5 powerbrokers are not elected correctly, then they got to renegotiated with everybody…get everybody in line and do the whole darn thing again.
They don’t trust us in the slightest bit, feel we should have punitive damage. Thank goodness, maliki did a last minute deal…. locked everybody in, knowingly did it. folks were surprised he acted on his own like that, that he got the gumption to do it. that’s why it was important day. Now the ball is in international position to do it. all countries accepted the RI very very quick – they had to do it. it put all countries on a key deadline. Now they’re trying to modify rules of their obligation. My understanding, they’re being disciplined throughout that.
C—we got criminals and those who follow the law…. Criminals will do what they want to do…can you comment on that?
dc--- I’m not here to get on gun control. The fact that a great number of the ppl are opposing this are having issues with it – a great number, not all --- this is getting black and white, all their attorneys, they’re saying “we fought a good fight, accomplished some things”. Some of them have specific interests they wanted to get accomplished, humanitarian projects and all that, and that’s a big win for them.
a lot of them are saying, “I’m not going to break anymore laws, we’re outta here”.
t---so, we’re in a great place.
c--- there is phone etiquette, guys. Heard a lot on this call…. Cutting DC and tony off left and right. When you ask a question, hold your mouth. We’re not here to hear you, but their answers, so please keep your rebuttal till the end. Thank you.
512 caller… nope….
636 caller ----- what date and rate…? I’m joking LOL On the RI itself, I know there’s international law, can the US get passed the international law or what?
t--- so you know there’s international that’s saying once this has been accepted…. Okay….
c--- I know there’s probably international in place, will the US obey international law cuz they usually don’t and write their own laws, make up as they go.
t—dc will answer that… I’m reading a text from Canada.
dc—don’t think we’re that big of a threat right now.
c---- is there an international law in place on the RI and will the US obey, can they go beyond the international law with the RI.
dc--- I’m not an attorney…. My understanding, they’re absolutely getting a ready to prepare and follow those rules. They’re trying to do it the best they can. Have the US do things on their own… we have agreed to follow international law..
t--- not only that, again, since the weekend, ppl have been notified, they’re being observed, recorded, documented, so they can pinpoint who is doing what.
dc---our allies are basically saying “the show’s up. We supported you because of *** deposits.” Most of our allies are saying no. this is blatant, we’re not going with you past the line. All the folks that we have talked to firmly believe that the US has been given the deal or be left behind.
c—heard a lot of date… the 15th and the 30th… is the 15th very important for the redoing the rates.
t--- the 15th and 30th are the dates they usually do the UN operation rates?
c- is may 15th significant?
t—it may go any time.
c—one more question: what’s the rate and date please? Thanks, tony.
615 caller ------- just want to say, I’m very frustrated like the man who wouldn’t let you off the hook. Expressing appreciation.
Is there any chance of the zeros being lobbed off the dinar or the dong?
t- is there any chance…? No, they’re not going to lob off. Don’t worry about it.
c--- I’ve heard rumors the dong not rving at all. Is there any truth to that?
t- it’s always a possibility. Again, it has been… it’s part of the formula. It has been part of the discussion.
c- I live in Nashville, is there any exchanging center in Nashville?
t--- I don’t know. Haven’t heard of it. but I’m sure there will be places for that.
dc--- Nashville is big enough, know some folks who are going to exchange there. Have a few big banks.
c--- the ppl who have been stalling this in govt – why are they still involved in the process?
t--- that’s a dc question. It’s his buddies.
dc---they are not! A group of weasel, our nickname for them. why are they stalling and why are still in power? Some are elected, some appointed. Very very powerful positions. They do have some gravitas and have some authority to speak to govt on that, they have used that on very extreme cases. Why are they still in power? They were elected by the people.
Why are they still holding off, why are they still fighting it? that’s the million dollar question. Some of their wants and needs, some just cuz of politics. “I am cuz I am.” Immense selfish, and in history, they will be judged harshly. What happens in the dark will come out.
There are many ppl in govt are trying to get this done, pushing like the devil. Not just at the lower level, the higher ppl are really wanting to get this done. A group of weasels are losing strength. Let history judge them on that, instead of hitting them on the head right now and jinx it again. If they want to screw us over again, we’ll rethink our positions.
t---we are the people. We have ppl in banking system and places giving us info, we know who they are. They will definitely, should definitely let us know “hey, we need you guys right now” or “this is what’s going on.” And I would definitely put on a call right away, twitter, etc. again, as dc said, if it comes to that, we have our ppl together, our own army for our interest. Don’t ever think we’re not prepared to do that. we’re working with ppl right now . we don’t want to start an uproar, unless some ppl tell us to do it cuz we’re that close. Right now, we’re moving forward. What we’re hearing, our position is a great position.
c--- you said something about them changing who they going to allow who’s going to be involved in the future. Regarding the dong, can they limit…
t--- a year ago, two years ago, I told you guys they came out with new banking laws, 10 million and above, after the RV, GCR, we’d have to go through the banking system, cut ppl out who don’t meet the criteria. By doing the RI, it changes the formula. Could they be doing that in the last 48 hours? Absolutely. They gotta be doing something.
c--- I’m behind you to get this done.
t--- when you look at reality, you just can’t give 5 million ppl a million dollars and say we’re still going to do this and you’re going to own the whole world. The original plan took care of that, and the RI threw a wrinkle in that and needs to be fix.
dc---- recent meetings based on fixing that wrinkle.
830 caller --- grateful for what you’re doing. ppl have to understand that you don’t owe us anything and you don’t have to do anything for us. Got to put our big boys pants on. Not to get on the call and get our frustration out….
DC said he’s going with the best rates out there… I don’t understand how to shop that rate if I got an 800#.
dc--- there’s some wrinkles they’re adjusting so we got to keep flexible. Our undrestasnding, we will all be given a choice while the choices last with different rates to choose from: A with these attached, B with these attached….
c--- I know when this thing rv, it’s supposed to have something supposed to happen, is that in play with you all talking about dates….
dc--- I think we’re getting too close and don’t want to mess something up.
c--- I got you. That’s what I was expect… okay. If the RV happens, the contract rates is still coming into play, is that still in place? How does that work? If the RI happens, does the RV has to happen to get the contract rates?
dc--- the contract rates are still there…. We still have the contract rates, they may call it something else… some call it contract, private placement, foreign currency sales… etc.
c--- ppl, please understand tony doesn’t owe us anything. What’s the other if it’s coming to an end.
t--- we’re just trying to not upset the apple cart right this moment cuz we know what’s going on. There are some ppl who want us to do that today. They’re sending me messages right now, cuz we didn’t do that they’re not making the decision. If I found out that’s the truth, I can do another call this afternoon, in another hour. That’s the power of the internet. That doesn’t concern us or come into play right at this moment. We’re going to rely on the guy who made things happen for us, putting us in position
DC said he heard from his guys on both sides, half want him to burn it down, half saying “you’re okay.” It’s coming to an end. The RI already happned, can’t go back. It’s signed, documented. We even signed it. Maliki the past couple of days been on TV asking to instituted the budget cuz the RI is on there. CL on Friday said that the IMF and US have agreed on rates. The call I got before the call started, something is happening in the monetary system. They’re hiding, hoping to hide it for a couple of more days.
If they’re trying to screw us over, trying to hold it, we still have the power. If we need to do it, we would. We’re being told right now “you got what you want, we’re trying to do it now”. Because of the unexpected wrinkle…. They had another move beside that…. he did something they didn’t expect on Saturday and they didn’t see it till Sunday.
c--- what you guys have done…very intelligent by holding off. Rules and changed, formula has changed… if you do something wild and crazy, it will change again.
t--- we do not (want the formula change). Not when it’s this close.
c--- you guys are in touch with what’s going on. Us our head, this is way way over our head. You guys do what you do, thank you for it. we appreciate you. Right on, guys.
Dc/t --- thank you.
302 caller ---- everybody sounds so frustrated today. It’s not you and DC. We appreciate all that you have done. We really appreciate you guys. Our frustration is toward our country…. It makes me laugh when ppl say it’s because of the RI…no! it’s because we’ve always been dragging it out. Maliki surprised me.
You said we got what we wanted --- not really. If without the VND, we didn’t get what we want. A lot of ppl didn’t have money to purchase dinar so they got a bit of VND… why in the heck are they’re not concerned about moving millionaires to billionaires, and billionaires to trillionaires when they were pulling all these shenanigans.
t--- I totally agree with you 100%. First of all, back then when they were paying ppl, they still thought it was going to be an RV and gcr, but that has changed. It that happened, the dinar and dong would have gone together so ppl wouldn’t double dip at all. Most ppl wouldn’t know. DC actually knows the exactly number of ppl in this country who have dinar and dong.
They didn’t plan on maliki doing it… because he felt things weren’t right… so he wanted to do something to protect himself…. All those currency he had, he made it worth something, him and his people. The rest of the world might be upset, the US might be upset, he did what he was supposed to do.
The US messed it up, doing all kinds of shenanigans and things didn’t work out that way. So they have options, just let the dinar go by itself and the rest of them don’t go. And now they have stop and reconfigured all that or figure out to keep it all together.
Those options, every one of them, affects our entire economy, global economy. It’s not decisions you make on a whim… cuz you don’t want to see the effects of it. Is there a way out of it? yes. They’re working on it. some ppl going to like it, some ppl don’t. or it could end another way and no one will like it.
We’re in a good place, our rate is still good…. I don’t see any good coming out of it at all if they do it the other way.
dc--- the cast is set… eventually the entire system will revalue…. The question is will they all do it at the same time?
c---- let’s be real… will this country allow some ppl – this is their hope, how they won’t be able to get it cuz of the VNN -- do you think that between now and then what they’ve been doing, that they would allow these ppl do something? They’re always in meeting. Are they going to let some ppl go? It’s a crying shame….
t--- again, you’re right. They could have prevented if they did it in November, December, april 1st like they told him they would. A lot of this could have been prevented. Can’t put spilt milk back in the bottom. Their decision… do we create billionaires and trillionaires and try to fix it or make the RI go and make it as hard as possible for them to get the other currencies. The RI, our rate is there, contract rate is there, opportunity is there, we just need it to go. They just need to figure out what happens afterward.
c--- frustration and pain ppl going through, not being able to participate…
t--- I don’t know they’re not going to cuz I don’t know the final decision. There are options but I don’t know which one they’ll take. Today, tomorrow, six months down the road – they have 3 options. As soon as they choose it, we go with it. one way or another it’s going to happen.
c- thanks again for helping everybody out. Guess we’ll just wait and see.
t—okay, guys, I really need everybody to understand, that’s why we give out a lot more info than we should have. I want everyone to understand without crossing the line. To let you know how close we are. They’ve been trying all weekend to come out with a formula to fix this. Over in Iraq, we don’t have an issue that we thought we would have, they all agree to work together. Not going to be an issue than we predicted it would be. Maliki is still in the loop, so that’s good.
The banks…tired of doing it… have pulled back. “tell us when you done playing games, tell us the decision and we’ll get back on.” We know what’s going on, what laws have been established, adhered to, broken up. All the info is available, steadily coming to us. They know that we know that everything is being done the way it should be. We’re not threatening anybopdy.
dc—we’re not threatening anybody.
t--- one faction said to burn it down, the other side said “we got this. See it thru till the end and let the govt takes care of it”. we’re for you guys. Don’t want to be in politics, don ‘t want to be a politician, don’t want to go to court to justify. Just want it to happen the sooner the better.
If there comes a time, I absolutely know how to bring it to you. DC knows how to bring it to you guys.
dc--- I do.
t--- we absolutely know how to bring it when it comes to it, let the chips lie where they may. Right now we’re in a good place.
dc--- great words, thanks, tony. Going to mention several key points – most folks on this call, can definitely here it – we’re all extremely frustrated. I’m frustrated at level I can’t put into words. Am in extremely pissed? Immensely so. We all know who’s doing it.
things, normally, thing and the system normal…. Can take care of itself. Karma is going to bite them in the backside so hard in so many different ways. They can’t fathom the hatred toward these guys at the international scale. They’re going to get it, not just the legal perspective but history is going to do it to them. just let that go, worry about your family and friends….
Just let them solve themselves. If we didn’t truly believe that this is really, really close…if anything we could say to sway it in a negative way, we’re not going to do it.
Tony and I do this for free, doing this 40 hours a week on this thing to help everybody out. We’re in a position to assist everybody and trying to help everyone in the dinar community to hang on. It’s our intention and everyone else in the group to continue doing that 7-14 days when it happens.
Pam – that is awesome, guys. Agree completely. We know it’s here, most awesome thing in the world. We’re ready. Let’s get this party started.
Ray – I’m deliriously happy.
t--- not what she said?
R- no, I’m deliriously happen. Let’s bring it on.
t---why is the RI not on the CBI, dc?
dc--- if I answer it, going to expose something…
t--- guys, he said we’re doing this for free, it’s not free because I have been paying for it. we have 100-200 ppl paying for 20K…they are, just so you guys know, can’t definitely go on. I think I have done my fair share, most have done their fair share. It will be on as long as it can go on.
If it stays on it stays on if it doesn’t it doesn’t, that’s as blatant as I can put it.
Hopefully it’s over and done with, if not, I think we’ve done our fair share. I’ve been paying for it, 200 ppl shouldn’t carry 20K.
We’re right where we need to be. They heard this call, they got the texts. Both sides have heard the call. They know what we’re prepared to do either way, to make sure this is concluded. They know where we’re at. Transcribers, really want to thank you. Thank for being here. Let’s do it again sometime.
Thanks, everybody. Have a great day.