IF WE DO NOT SEE THIS IN THE COMING DAYS SOMETHING VERY SINISTER IS AT PLAY.
The ZIM is live on Forex & other sites, EXO said it IS trading but not for us. How in the heck do we get in on this? This is crazy, yeah NO RULES is right.
Ron Burgundy > Jana:
Those rates are for the ZWL notes.
I am not sure what you are holding, but the ZWL is NOT the same as the 2008 / 2009 50-100T notes
BlueBeach > Ron Burgundy:
The ZWL is the new Zimbabwe currency - the RI.
The question is, how will the ZWD fit into the equation and will it?
Will only Wealth Manager and/or groups be able to convert their ZWD's to new notes?
So....Let me get this straight....ZWL is NOT the same as ZWD and the ZWD is what most of us Dinarians are holding....
The ZWL is live today but not the ZWD which we hold...
Does this mean the 50T and 100T ZWD the Dinarians bought are totally worthless because Zimbabwe have a new currency now which is the ZWL???
That is a serious bummer today...sigh
GT..Didn't want to sound stupid for asking that ....but if it is showing on Forex..I would assume you could exchange...
G T > Chrisdaddy:
Remember .....Forex is A TRading site & Aparently we don't have the right Notes (that's Live on Forex)!!!
DKC, when someone asked earlier about the 10T note being worthless, EXO said NO, NOT AT ALL. IDK
Just a thought... IQD will RI first. If they didn't make the dinar RI law, then there would not exist any legality to be able to pay first in-country debts. This value will not show up on the CBI website until it goes to the international level. Maybe that's what's happening with Zim. IDK
Everyone needs to take a deep breath!!! The new ZWL is similar to the new TRN's. Zimbabwe will begin trading and then it will go live to public at the same time as all the other RV'd currencies.
This is all good news as it should be a notice to us all that it's all about to break lose, for the good.
Be diversified as best you can, but nobody will be left out. JMO
I believe the elephant in the room is: "Those who have the 50 and 100T 2008 AA notes" will they be tradable upon RI/RV" as obviously these, at this time, are non-negotiable. This is what everyone is trying to understand.
The Zim most Dinarians bought was always a long-shot.....At this point all we can do is take it with us when we go to our exchange apt and see if it is exchangable or worthless....and hope for the best
nana7 > OilRat:
EXOGEN > Vinman
October 1, 2014 at 11:16am
THE QUESTION IS WHICH NOTES ARE TRADING, AND BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE HEARD THE ZIM IS LIVE BUT IT MAY NOT BE THE NOTES WE HAVE. OTHERWISE WE COULD GO TO THE BANKS. THE ZIM WAS REINSTATED AROUND AUGUST 29TH
Aloha Leslie > nana7:
I believe it was reinstated so the government could legally pay off its debts. It will go International...???? Soon, I hope.
So, if Zim RI'd yesterday, is there now a 10 day window for the world to accept the RI? That is what we heard when Iraq RI'd in Feb under Maliki, and then again 3 weeks ago under Abadi.
Also, within the RI time, doesn't forex allow trading to begin on the back room formats, to 'prime the pump' for international trading amongst all traders (including civilian traders) once it goes live?
After the 10 day window is done and internationally accepted, will it then RV at the rates we were expecting?
EXOGEN > Kudu70:
THE ZWL IS NOT THE CURRENCY MANY OF US HAVE PURCHASED…How many times have we told you to have multiple currencies in your portfolio?
Joey > EXOGEN:
Will the other ZIM, (ZWD, ZWR) convert to ZWL at exchange? Is the move an example how the other currencies transition from IQD to IQN, VND to VNN, etc...?
WE ARE SAYING HAVE A PORTFOLIO OF SPECULATIVE CURRENCIES AND YOU WILL BE OK
People i dont understand why no one will tell you this but the ZIM has simply been reinstated and when they did this it was RI'd @ the rate it was when it was suspened so we can just calm down and if it is RI'd we should legally be able to cash out @ the rate its at right now but i'll just wait.
THIS IS A GREAT THING !
EXO - PLEASE - Did you really mean that BOTH the dollar and gold are about to go DOWN in a big way?
EXOGEN > NewEarthNow:
YES GOLD WILL EVENTUALLY COME BACK UP AS THE INSTITUTIONAL INVESTORS ARE NOW HOARDING IT AND BUYING IT WHILE IT IS LOW, SO THEY HAVE MORE, WHEN THEY DRIVE THE PRICE BACK UP
Aloha Leslie > NewEarthNow:
I don't think that's what will happen NEN. Gold will rise and the dollar will go down. The natural, manipulated, flow of things. LOL IMO However, I'm no expert... :)
EXOGEN > NewEarthNow:
THERE WILL BE A FREE FALL YES….SEE PEOPLE ARE NOW PARKING MONEY INTO THE INFLATED USD THAT HAS BEEN INCREASING. PEOPLE ARE MOVING MONEY FROM GOLD WHICH IS DROPPING AND PARKING MONEY IN THE FRN'S AS THEY SEE THE NUMBERS INCREASING
FD > EXOGEN:
The question is for how long FRNs will stay up?
Tony said RI happened several months ago. What's up?
EXOGEN > MJSeeker:
THERE ARE SO MANY RULES NOT FOLLOWED WITH THE IQD, IT WOULD TAKE US WEEKS TO EXPLAIN IT ALL
ABADI HAS NOT DELIVERED YET
What in the world is IRAQ thinking now? They rather listening to O then country RIOTING? What a bunch of IDIOTS.
EXOGEN > Fullofit:
BEHIND THE SCENES MALIKI IS ORGANIZING MORE PROTESTS AS WELL AS HE HAS A TRIAL COMING UP AND THE COUNTRY IS INVESTIGATING HOW MUCH MONEY HE STOLE FROM THE BUDGET
nana7 > EXOGEN:
Why don't they just arrest him already!!
Or throw him out of the country or have someone take him out??
THE POTENTIAL UPRISING OF IRAQ CITIZENS WILL EXPEDITE HELPING US GET WHAT WE WANT
If Abadi can pull this off in the last minute it would serve a dual purpose. Not only giving the people what they want but also helping Abadi cut the puppet strings of the usg who want to delay this by doing it for the sake of his people. Here's to hoping! ;)~
EXOGEN > L T:
MALIKI IS PRAYING THAT ABADI DOES NOT GET THIS BUDGET PASSED AND OPENED AND REVISED QUICKLY WITH THE NEW OIL NUMBERS
October 1, 2014 at 2:24pm
Elvis > EXOGEN:
HCL and RV ?
Aloha Leslie Abadi is signing the final paper work He is for the people and will NOT EVER GIVE UP!!!
Abadi is calling for an emergency meeting to get a release of funds to his people.
New Qi cards activated. People getting paid...Today
People are happy and celebrating. Thanks Abadi. You rock!! Maliki is being Star Dusted!!
Hats OFF to Abadi!!
EXO do you think if Abadi does the pay for citizens, military, kurdistan today will the RV be activated internationally today? Or is this payment not really a factor to the RV happening?
THE QUESTION IS CAN THEY GET PAID AND USA STILL KEEP THE RATE ON ADMINISTRATIVE HOLD
Louie67 > Aloha Leslie:
Now let me ask you did somebody already verify this on Iraq newspapers? that is the question.
EXOGEN > Louie67:
ITS ALREADY PUBLIC INFORMATION
Louie67 > Aloha Leslie:
People are celebrating? please don't tell me Tony said this lol
Aloha Leslie > Louie67:
No, EXO did. And I don't know if he listens to Tony...LOL But Tony did just say that the call centers are ready! :)))
EXOGEN > Aloha Leslie:
Actually they are called OFFSITE Exchange Centers
To do all that paying, was that with RV'd Dinar?How much longer?
EXOGEN > Kudu70:
IT IS DIGITAL
Adanais > EXOGEN:
If I well understand, it means it should be fast... ?
IT WAS DEFINITELY NOT SNOWING THIS MORNING WITH ALL THE PROTESTS, THEN THINGS CHANGED AND ABADI CALLED EMERGENCY SESSION TO PAY THE PEOPLE , SAVE FACE, KEEP HIS WORD, AND HAVE HONOR.
WE WILL KNOW IF SOME CONTRACTS WERE PAID TODAY IN REVALUED IQD SHORTLY
Don't shoot the messenger. I just heard: "The admiral just finished signing all the papers."
Mr. Chen > EXOGEN:
how would we know if they are paid in Revalued IQD and not the regular one. They paid salaries back in August for retirees and social workers in regular IQD. Are you insuating that the RV will go live then right away when the announcement is made that people got paid back pay today.
EXOGEN > Mr. Chen:
keep in mind we still do not have any rules
although funds are released by the IMF, that does not yet mean that the Public will RV; the trigger still needs to be pulled...by the PTB...so don't blame me if you're not at the bank...
Dr. Mark > Omega Man:
OM quick question: if those funds are released, where are they and who is making the interest on that money!
Sem > Dr. Mark:
my understanding is the IMF release releases the credit lines for the HK platforms.
Basically collateral to start trade and pay outs.
Omega Man > Dr. Mark:
the funds are released to the prospective banks; HSBC, BOC, STANDARD CHARTERED, WF, B of A ETC. so that the platforms can now begin to trade the bonds...as far as the interest goes, now it's the banks that are making it...
MARKET ACTION today is ideal for CHANGE to begin
WITHIN 8 HOURS
October 1, 2014 at 3:22pm
WE WILL SOON FIND OUT IF THE COUNTRY OF IRAQ CAN HAVE LIVE ACTIVATIONS OF CARDS IN ALL PROVINCES AND USA BANK RATES CONTINUE TO SHOW ADMINISTRATIVE HOLD. THE NEXT 24 HOURS SHOULD BE INTERESTING