Alsumaria News / Baghdad A parliamentary source revealed, Monday, that the Presidency of the Council of Representatives decided to postpone the second session of the Parliament to the 12th of August next. The source said in an interview for "Alsumaria News", "The presidency of the parliament decided today to postpone the second session of the new parliament, which was scheduled for tomorrow, Tuesday, the 12th of August next year."
The source, who asked not to be named, said: "The reason for the delay was the incompatibility of the political blocs to nominate candidates for the three presidencies." And decided the new Speaker of the House Rep. older Mehdi al-Hafez, Tuesday (July 1, 2014), the adjournment of the Council to the first day which falls on Tuesday (the eighth of July 2014),
I hope to grant political blocs time necessary to agree on the three presidencies. http://www.faceiraq.com/inews.php?id=2870182
- This Dinar investment is psychologically complex dealing with parallel theories of ambiguity and disjunction.... translation - "It's all jacked up!"
I'm not surprised....disappointed but not surprised.
Un-Believeable, I so try to stay possitive, and I will remain possitive, like Ive always said, if this happens, it will be sent from the big guy in the sky.
You probably do not want to hear this, but, dont be so moved with all that is happening, now, lets look forward to that prize, we have had some very important decisions, we need made, NOW !
I still believe, that God is our source, not Iraq, Maliki, Sadr, Hakim, Turki, or anyone else.
I encourage you all, to remain possitive, try not to look at the now, but look for the future, we are climbing that mountain, we will soon be at the top..
I need to see more confirmation before I take this as gospel
Pl;ease tell me this isn't true. Like another month is really going to matter?
These people have had all the time in the world to get their ducks in a row!!!
It's on the parliament site too I saw it on another forum. I'm on my iPad but lemme see if I can get a link.
Statement 07/07/2014 ((Basmallah Merciful))
The House of Representatives at its meeting on 1 / July 2014 / has to elect the President of the House of Representatives and Deputy First and Second Vice President to 8 / July / 2014 due to lack of quorum to conduct consultations with the heads of parliamentary blocs to determine the appropriate date for the hearing. ‘
After our consultations with stakeholders it was agreed to invite the ladies and gentlemen of the Council members to the meeting and the completion of the first session of the Council on 12 / August / 2014 eleven o'clock in the morning.
We hope that Ttoverhna greater opportunity for more dialogue and consultations on the arrangements for this meeting.
Chairman of Age
- Anticipation of The RV is WORSE than The RV itself!
Is this a cry for help or what? Is this really going to be allowed when they are asking the US for troops. I have a hard time believing this is going to fly.
Mally, I agree. This has to be a strategy of some kind. They're so close to being a new govt with a new approach that I find it impossible to believe they could be so stupid as to resort to their old ways.
If this is indeed true, and I was the original poster... This is the dumbest thing they can possibly do! They never cease to amaze me! If true, thus parliament is just like the last! We have Isis taking over our cities and a civil war about to break out.... I know, let's take a month long vacation to think about doing something.... Idiots!!!
don't believe everything you read..
Thank's pagerdr.........unfortunatley.....imo...this will not get done for a while. Even the opposition can't seem to get it together......The winner from all of these delays will be nuri Maliki....I now lean towards him winning a 3rd term...
It is now obvious why these people can only flourish with a dictator. Taking any decisions out of their hands as Saadam did......Maliki may end up being that guy after all........how this would play out in monetary reform?
Amen Preacher Man....keep on preaching brother. The devil aint no how gonna make me curse the darkness or be discouraged.
He gives us our every breath of life, the next heart beat, eyes to see the beauty of the sun rise and sun set. Ears to hear the laughter of children and birds in the sky.
These and a million other things in life are worth more than all the money in the world and they are free. Lets enjoy this life with those things God has blessed us with before it all passes us by while we are waiting for a temporal blessing that can disappear like sand through our fingers
This session would have been a waste of time if they had convened. Until the Sunni's have a Speaker ready to vote on, all they would have done is trade insults. It seems like none of the groups really trust each other, no one wants to put up a nominee until they know what the other team is doing.
The Sunni's and Kurd's are holding up the progress now, they need to get their acts together and begin the process of forming the government. They are playing into Maliki's hands with the stall tactics and delays. Maliki will only get stronger and ISIL will continue to tear up the west and blow up Shia mosques and shrines.
Fatlawi intends to file a lawsuit against Hafiz postponed because of the parliamentary session
07-07-2014 03:34 PM Baghdad (news) .. confirmed the MP for the coalition of state law, Hanan al, it will raise a lawsuit against Speaker older Mehdi al-Hafez for violating the constitution, not to convene a session of Parliament and is not elected president of the Council and his two deputies.
said Fatlawi in a press statement seen by the Agency (news) : The decision to postpone the second session of the parliament reflects the state of irresponsibility of the political blocs, which asked for the delay is the disregard for the fate of Iraq and the will of the fans'.
added Fatlawi: that the 'President of the Age bear legal responsibility, which was supposed to be doing his duty and not respond to the will of some political blocs that only concern the gains and positions
privileges and Aémha what is going on in the race and the challenges it faces and its war with terrorism and disrupt the budget and the other, noting that it will raise a lawsuit in federal court against the prime age for violating the constitution, not to hold the meeting and not to elect a president and two deputies in the first session. / End / b. PVC /
I wouldn't recommend anyone risking their mental health by calling this "smoke". There's several articles out there to prove it. It could change at any minute as we all know, but for now its fact. I've been in this long enough to know that calling an opinion article smoke is ok, but not something like this. Set your expectations correctly on this timeline or drive yourself nuts, it's up to you. Just trying to help... I'm not happy either but it is what it is.
I don't buy it one bit I figured they would try to postpone it by I don't think it will be for that long
Sure, why not?! It was pretty much a general statement to cover a broad range of areas… all articles, opinions, Intel etc. etc.. The hard reality is we have no idea what is going on. Even the best researchers can only put out a best guess which is still way off..
Additionally – someone was going to come on here and post it so I figured why not me.. I’m still hopeful for an RV sometime in my life time.
BeastMaster, Me too- I say let Tuesday get here & let's see what happens!!!
Interesting that in Pagerdr's article Fatlawi who is from the State Law Coalition is Threatening law suite for the postponement. That is Malikis group. I would have thought that a long delay benefits Maliki?
i know we're all excited, but i think we should assume everything is just smoke and let it clear a bit.... after all, year later, we don't even know if Talibani is dead or alive? (think how surreal that one alone is?!?) they can hide anything, everything....and they always do;)
I'm taking a break from all of this until 2:00 am. I'm going to set my alarm, get up, and focus all my intention and prayer work that Parliament meet, have a quorum, and get the ball rolling on this. Have a peaceful day, all.
This ain't smoke.
For the first time I'm in agreeance with a member of the SOL. The Sunni's and Kurd's need to put up nominees for Speaker and President, then they move onto the PM. These delays are unconstituional, these guys need to step up and do what the folks elected them for, representing them in Baghdad.
I like most was hoping that Tuesday would bring clarity if nothing else to where we stand but not sure I got what I was looking for.
So Kap has said no one will really admit how bad it is, one of our posters had a friend about to head to Iraq who said it is bad over there, some say it's not that bad and ISIS will be squashed quickly, Terry K is just waiting for the phone call, Goat who was discredited on BGGs site awhile ago says Maliki will be taken out, many say it does not matter if Maliki is in or not, others say it will put an RV off for a long time, information from inside contacts conflicts with news stories, we can't trust the news, theres lots of smoke out there, wait to see how this pans out, Maliki is preparing to flee, etc.
Sorry if I sound a bit negative, but it is only in reference to clarity. Still praying for that RV.
Just another reason that we shouldn't listen to intel which once again has Never been right! People get so excited on the intel rollercoaster only to be let down every single time!!!
Kind of makes you wonder why doesn't it!!! I am just as guilty for getting my hopes up as well and I for I should know better since being on this crazy ride for almost 9 years!
Tlar is right about one thing though as long as Maliki is there and there is no stable government we will not see an RV period this has always been the case though!
I bet dinar sales were up significantly right before July 1st though!!! Good luck everyone I am packing my dinars away and getting off the emotional rollercoaster here until if and when they so finally get their crap together in Iraq I am sure I will get an email from someone that the RV finally happened!!!!!
Just saw another article that said the Kurds are now going to attend Tomorrow's meeting... So, are they going to meet tomorrow or not???
Good post, Philly. I wil say though, the media has this pretty straight so far. They've told us over and over that there hasn't been a consensus on who will occupy the three presidencies and guess what, they're right. Hopium and intel are what confuses the community, the answers we're looking for can be read everyday by some of the best newshounds out there, here on CC.
When we start seeing articles that state the Sunni's have settled on a President, we know we're closer.
We also need the Kurd's to nominate a President before the NA announces their PM nominee,
what the Kurd's are doing is outside the constitution, they can't hijack the process just because they want to know who the NA is putting up first. Iraq needs help, they obviously can't get to the next phase without someone coming in and knocking some heads together.
The constitution allows ONE delay, and they took that on the 1st. Im waiting for Sistani to chime in, and remember, there's always the "special session"......
Ok, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. This is what we know;
Hakim has stated publicly and his actions have matched his words that the Coalition seeks an agreement with All parties, including the SOL, for the naming of the 3 presidencies.
Next, Najaifi announces he will step down to satisfy Maliki and the SOL that he remove his name for consideration for Speaker. Earlier, Maliki said publicly there was no way he would step down if Najaifi is considered for Speaker.
Next, Najaifi and Maliki have an agreement overnite but the next morning, Maliki changes his mind. But, Najaifi has already announced he has removed his name for Speaker. This infuriates Najaifi and next he throws his hat back in the ring for Speaker.
This morning's postponement is a political move to put even more pressure on Maliki. The SOL, even though they don't have enough votes within the NA to put Maliki through as PM, next announces that they will "sue" because of the delay and in violation of the consitution.
Not one of us should get too excited. This is political wrangling at its finest.
Let's watch what the next 24 hours brings..
The US has demanded that they seat the new government ASAP without delay. If this is another delay tactic by Maliki, I think the 2nd option will trigger, and Maliki will be dealt with "another way"
next phase will see passing the names of candidates for the three presidencies in one basket [Print] [Save]
BAGHDAD / NINA / MP for the Ahrar parliamentary bloc, Hakem al-Zamli said "the crisis is still exist , on the grounds that all the political blocs fail to agree on the names of candidates for the three presidencies," pointing out that" the next phase will see passing the names of candidates for the three presidencies in one basket in the House of Representatives ,.
He in a statement to the National Iraqi News Agency / NINA / predicted to postpone tomorrow's meeting for the lack of agreement on the names of candidates. "
He added, " the demands of the political blocs are still high, the state of law is insist on nomination of Nuri al-Maliki, despite the fact that other political blocs refuse this nomination, and there are divisions within the Kurdish parties on the candidate for the post of President of the Republic, and other divisions within Sunni lists on the candidate of the Speaker House of Representatives. "
He pointed out that "the problems between the political blocs are still complex and there is no agreement on any paragraph of the candidates for the presidencies."/ end
Great Post Big John -- Breaking News … Nijaifi re-nominates for Speaker's post
Monday, 07 July 2014 12:45 | PDF | Print | E-mail
Baghdad (AIN) –The head of Motahidoin Alliance, Osama al-Nijaifi, re-nominated for the Speaker's post after canceling his nomination on last Thursday.
Source within Motahidoin Alliance stated to AIN " Nijaifi re-nominated for the Speaker's post because the Sunni political blocs nominated Saleem al-Jobouri without consulting him." /End/
Breaking News … 3 more nominees compete with Jobouri to get Speaker's post
Monday, 07 July 2014 15:56 | PDF | Print | E-mail
Baghdad (AIN) –A source within the National Powers Union stated to AIN that the political sides within the NPU did not agree on Saleem al-Jobouri as their final and only nominee for the Speaker's post.
The source added to AIN "The former Speaker, Osama al-Nijaifi, rejected Jobouri's nomination for this post and therefore; he nominated for this post as well."
"The Deputy Premier, Salih al-Mutleg and the head of Humat al-Iraq, Ahmed al-Missari, also nominated for this post," the source concluded. /End/
Patience. We are not in control. Serenety Now.
Thank you Doc. As Blue says; Paitience. None of us want to end up like Thelma and Louise.
and there is another article today saying Najafi has pulled his name for the position. He's in then out back in and now out again?
One thing is for Sure, these idiots are Masters at the Iraqi Hokie Pokie!
Najafi, Put you name in for Parliament speaker candidate
Najafi, Pull you name Out for Parliment speaker candidate
Najafi, Put you name in for Parliment speaker candidate
And we all shake our heads all about...
Do the Iraqi Hokie Pokie and turn yourself around..
That's what they're all about!
Mike: Yep, political theatre at it's best. But, on the other hand, the SOL is right in this instance. The Kurd's and Sunni's have no consittutional right to withhold their nominees just because the NA hasn't publically stated who their nominee is.
I've read articles about passing everyone in one basket, but that's not how Parliaments work. Iraq is rudderless right now, they have MP's who must work together in a process to get to the PM.
The Sunni's are guilty of dragging their feet on the Speaker nomination, the Kurd's are guilty because they won't put up a President. The President is the only one who can call on the largest bloc (the NA) to put forth their nominee, after the Speaker and President are elected.
This all a big waste of time with debates and meetings about the PM, there's more wood to chop before they can get to that position and vote on it.
Why the delay from the Sunni's and Kurd's? Can you imagine how Sadr and Hakim must feel right now?
They're fighting the NA everyday against Maliki's nomination, in hopes that the Sunni's and Kurd's will unite with them to form a unified government but the guys they're counting on are unable to get their act together. How long will Hakim and Sadr hold out for a unified government?
My biggest concern right now is that the coalition has been bluffing the entire time and that they don't have the 210 MP's support like they said they had.
That would explain why they're trying to do an end run on Maliki within the NA, that way there is no up and down vote in Parliament regarding the PM position.
I don't think that's going to work though, the SOL are the majority in the NA and there's no way now they're going to back another PM, they don't have to yet. I guess time will tell.......
Good analysis, Mike, Thanks.
The thing that needs to happen in Iraq is the same thing needed in the US; a top to bottom change in leadership. Pockets full of money and too much power leaves no sense of urgency. The people are at the mercy of a bunch of fat cats constantly beating the drum about the need for change but without the real motivation for it.
Beastmaster I think your living in a cave. Several experts on Iraq know exactly what is going on and have stated so. I guess so many do not want to listen
Not having the votes is a real possibility. and if they think they might have the votes they can't really trust they'll get the vote when it's time..
not a cave... a hole in the ground... Sorry nwa - not even you and your naysayers know whats going on. while you might have be right thus far - it's easy to take you're side. one day you will be wrong - no one, not even you know when that day will be.
ladenov calls on the political powers to reach an agreement on the election of the Speaker of the Parliament as soon as possible
07/07/2014 20:12:00 BAGHDAD / NINA / Envoy of the Secretary-General of the United Nations Nikolay Mladenov called on political powers, to reach an agreement on the election of the Speaker of the Parliament as soon as possible.
A statement by the Mission / UNAMI / that over the past few days, Mladenov held discussions with a number of Iraqi political leaders and encouraged everyone to stay within the framework of constitutional political process so as the House of Representatives meet immediately.
It added that Mladenov received assurances about the desire of political leaders to reach an agreement and to find solutions to the current crisis in the constitutional framework.
Mladenov outlined that the blocs in the parliament must set the days of the final negotiations, and work within the timetables constitutionally for the necessary nominations, through the first step which is to elected the speaker of the House of Representatives, which must happen without unnecessary delay, according to the statement. / End
Maladinov gets it, hopefully they'll listen and get the ball rolling pronto.
RandyT00: In reality if you read their constitution they do not have to tell the other blocks who their nominees are before they gather in parliament and put their nominees up for vote. However, they know how they behave when they gather in parliament.
To prevent what happened the first time they met al-Sistini even ventured into the fray and told them to pick their candidates and pass them around to the other blocs before the meeting. He actually suggested they do this before the first meeting of parliament but he made it an order they do so before the next meeting of parliament.
I am not sure if we all understand the power sharing agreement that the US left Iraq with. There are 3 presidencies, the Speaker of Parliament, the President of Iraq and the Prime Minister.
Each has two vice presidents. The Speaker of Parliament is given to the Sunnis, but he has a Shi'ite and a Kurdish Vice President. The President is given to the Kurds, with a Sunni and Shi'ite Vice President.
The Prime Minister is given to the Shi'ites with a Sunni and a Kurdish Deputy Prime Minister.
Clever those Americans. But a nightmare to negotiate. Since the Prime Minister is last up to be voted upon you can see why everyone is very nervous about even letting Maliki in the room when the vote happens. Their afraid of a last minute substitute. That is what all this talk about one basket is all about.
Hakim is prepared for that, but Maliki has been out there bribing people and all the MPs know that and have been reading articles saying how many more ministers Maliki has swayed. They are very nervous.
That is why they want to know who the other blocs are going to put up for their candidates. Would not want to know who you are going to work with? That is why they are going after consensus.
But I agree they need to get this over. Delay and chaos only feeds into the crisis which is Malikis aim at the moment. RandyT00 (~_~)